Masonry above all allowed end runs around a highly stratified social structure that established blocks between the classes. Within the Masonic lodge this stratification was set aside, and it would not be uncommon for the managers son to be in contact with the clerks in his office, or the laborers who he would almost never have any oppo…
Masonry above all allowed end runs around a highly stratified social structure that established blocks between the classes. Within the Masonic lodge this stratification was set aside, and it would not be uncommon for the managers son to be in contact with the clerks in his office, or the laborers who he would almost never have any opportunity to be in contact with.
Once this mindset became possible through usage, it could spread to organizations like the scientific societies making them more than salons for the elite who dabbled in natural philosophy, and from there to society in general.
In a way it was the social media of the time, where anyone could be in contact with anyone, and could discuss outside of the requirements of their classes or status. Social media may be demonic in itself, but the usefulness in connecting people is enormous
That's a really important point. Secret societies aren't purely sinister organizations. They're a social technology, and like any technology, it's the application and not the technology itself that's value-weighted.
Secret societies also provide a venue and a pool of people from which more sinister organizations can groom perspective members, just like it says in the Protocols of Zion. I agree that 90% of Masons never reach the point where Satanic ritual witchcraft is required. I'm suggesting that there is an overarching Satanic cult that selects members from lower secret societies, like the Masons, Knights of Columbus, and the Scottish Rite. Priestcraft is the enemy of humanity. This has not changed since the Baroque era. We have priests in science. We have priests in popular culture (music and movies). We have priests in the three letter government intel agencies. Gee, there's no reason to think anything sinister is going on. It's just a secret society where members swear to devil never to breath a word about it or their entrails will be strung out all over the ground, but it's a really important point that it's not the fault of the technology itself. You must understand how full of shit you sound as you try to put a polite spin on the secret boys club doing untold evil in the world. Oh, it's not the technology itself that's at fault...oh salient point there...
I get what you're driving at now. Secret societies can do good. I can think of many examples: the underground railroad, the Polish and French resistance to Nazi occupation. There are lots of examples of secret societies that counter oppression and totalitarianism. Lots of religious groups (Christians) have met in secret because they are oppressed: Rosicrucians, Philidelphians, Muggletonians, Ranters, Shakers, Bakers, Quakers, Lakers, and Fakers. So the technology can be used for good. OK. I will take your point.
I could argue that secret societies are also a symptom of a dysfunctional society like a social equivalent to a black market in a centrally planned or over-regulated market.
Heroin and prostitution are black markets, but so are untaxed cigarettes and raw milk. Also, social change can follow the development of black markets, or the black markets can become integrated in the economy. Bootlegging and the violence surrounding it during prohibition was one of the drivers for ending prohibition, for the first part, and the Argentinian "Dollar Blue" for the other.
Dollar blue is the black market price for US Dollar in Argentina, which pegged its Peso to the USD, and then proceeded to print it into inflation. The official rate is below the street rate, and the street rate is known as the Dollar Blue.
In true Argentinian fashion, the exchange rate for the Dollar Blue in Buenos Aires, Montevideo Uruguay and a few other places used to be listed on Page One of the major Buenos Aires financial paper.
Masonry above all allowed end runs around a highly stratified social structure that established blocks between the classes. Within the Masonic lodge this stratification was set aside, and it would not be uncommon for the managers son to be in contact with the clerks in his office, or the laborers who he would almost never have any opportunity to be in contact with.
Once this mindset became possible through usage, it could spread to organizations like the scientific societies making them more than salons for the elite who dabbled in natural philosophy, and from there to society in general.
In a way it was the social media of the time, where anyone could be in contact with anyone, and could discuss outside of the requirements of their classes or status. Social media may be demonic in itself, but the usefulness in connecting people is enormous
That's a really important point. Secret societies aren't purely sinister organizations. They're a social technology, and like any technology, it's the application and not the technology itself that's value-weighted.
Secret societies also provide a venue and a pool of people from which more sinister organizations can groom perspective members, just like it says in the Protocols of Zion. I agree that 90% of Masons never reach the point where Satanic ritual witchcraft is required. I'm suggesting that there is an overarching Satanic cult that selects members from lower secret societies, like the Masons, Knights of Columbus, and the Scottish Rite. Priestcraft is the enemy of humanity. This has not changed since the Baroque era. We have priests in science. We have priests in popular culture (music and movies). We have priests in the three letter government intel agencies. Gee, there's no reason to think anything sinister is going on. It's just a secret society where members swear to devil never to breath a word about it or their entrails will be strung out all over the ground, but it's a really important point that it's not the fault of the technology itself. You must understand how full of shit you sound as you try to put a polite spin on the secret boys club doing untold evil in the world. Oh, it's not the technology itself that's at fault...oh salient point there...
Sure. That's absolutely a thing. So are secret societies operating as underground resistance networks opposing genuinely tyrannical pathocracies.
Secret societies provide "a" venue for darkness to recruit; not "the" venue.
Further: what counts as a secret society? Do my private chats on Telegram with my personal friend groups qualify? What about 4chan?
I get what you're driving at now. Secret societies can do good. I can think of many examples: the underground railroad, the Polish and French resistance to Nazi occupation. There are lots of examples of secret societies that counter oppression and totalitarianism. Lots of religious groups (Christians) have met in secret because they are oppressed: Rosicrucians, Philidelphians, Muggletonians, Ranters, Shakers, Bakers, Quakers, Lakers, and Fakers. So the technology can be used for good. OK. I will take your point.
I could argue that secret societies are also a symptom of a dysfunctional society like a social equivalent to a black market in a centrally planned or over-regulated market.
Heroin and prostitution are black markets, but so are untaxed cigarettes and raw milk. Also, social change can follow the development of black markets, or the black markets can become integrated in the economy. Bootlegging and the violence surrounding it during prohibition was one of the drivers for ending prohibition, for the first part, and the Argentinian "Dollar Blue" for the other.
Dollar blue is the black market price for US Dollar in Argentina, which pegged its Peso to the USD, and then proceeded to print it into inflation. The official rate is below the street rate, and the street rate is known as the Dollar Blue.
In true Argentinian fashion, the exchange rate for the Dollar Blue in Buenos Aires, Montevideo Uruguay and a few other places used to be listed on Page One of the major Buenos Aires financial paper.