I have a friend whose company supports disaster relief in North Carolina, they have assisted in the past coastal hurricanes. Her son flew helicopters in the service, is licensed to fly and as far they knew they were still licensed to operate and assist during this disaster. Her son was grounded, given the rationale that their organization had not received approval from the United Way, who is one of the NGOs coordinating with FEMA.
Fort Bragg in is the same state, they have been to stand down. We are at Day 5 and those resource - particularly the helicopters - have not been ordered in. Two days after the hurricane, the Tennessee National Guard was deployed overseas, but that should matter because Fort Bragg is the fucking state.
This government, operating actively to harm the people, dissolved the contract with us. We are duty bound to disobey it at every turn. Especially where FEMA is concerned. If you look up the law that create FEMA, is has ZERO authority to deny anyone access to an emergency area, it's charter states clearly it is an organization that collaborates and supports disaster recovery efforts. State and local law enforcement, acting on the orders of the governor have authority, according to North Carolina law that is to the extent that someone is interfering with rescue / recovery efforts. Driving on a back road doesn't qualify. And where the federal government derives the power to confer authority on a private entity such as the United Way that can ground pilots is beyond me. FAA can, the governor can, but FEMA? Nope.
The border is now closed between North Carolina and Tennessee. This is far worse than the flood itself, and more brazen than Covid. We are under no obligation to use the same system to vote it out of existence if that system has nullified it's power because they are used unconstitutionally to the harm of the US citizens. Pick any Founding Father and read their ideas about what is required when a govt acts in this manner and it's clear we're are duty bound to resist and end that form of government.
I'm a little heated because I have friends and my sister in the state, one outside of Asheville who luckily was unharmed.
You're not the only one whose emotions are riding high over this. And justifiably so.
I should have mentioned that some of the NG units had already been sent to support Our Greatest Ally. What a slap in the face, and what a clear demonstration of priorities.
I’ll be posting a podcast session with Pm, who has run assistance for hurricane relief. Her son is the one who was grounded yesterday. Prior to FEMA showing up on day three, private efforts were make good progress. Once the feds found that people were stepping on the turf, they’ve slowed things down. And I think we have to ask the basic question: who is going to know the back roads, the territories, the terrain better, locals or FEMA? FEMA should stack boxes, and watch the warehouses. That’s about it. Nat Guard and army does insertion and extraction, yet they are not there in any great number. And if the Gov doesn’t locals to help, the state of emergency should contain those orders instead of FEMA assuming authority which it doesn’t have.
I think you've hit the nail on the head here. Government is supposed to work with the citizenry, not against it. They seem instead to be actively thwarting rescue and relief efforts. I think the political class has forgotten that they were elected to serve.
Nobody is making some helicopters stay on the ground, it's probably about money to buy the fuel and so forth. The company will stay grounded until somebody cuts them a check, otherwise it's on their own resources. Plenty of helicopters are flying, drawing from other resources. I also have no idea what you mean by the "border" being closed, It's got to be hundreds of miles long through Appalachia.
That so-called Border Protection Bill that the Democrats are always moaning about provided $60 BILLION to Ukraine and $14 BILLION for Israel. It is a shame the mountain people in the USA cannot get the help they need. It is almost like the government wants poor people out of the mountains so there will be room for millionaires in the new condos that will be built.
Mark Twain famously said, "Everybody talks about the weather, but nobody does anything about it". Of course, now the government has the ability to create storms and to poison us through chemtrails.
I'm from near the area, and have many friends from up there.
All the "rumors" about the horrors up there are absolutely true. The death toll, based off of accounts of people I personally know in the region, is AT THE LOWEST MINIMUM 2000.
The National Guard has done some work, but most of it are private citizens who are dodging supplies confiscation and arrest from FEMA and police.
But where the authorities have done NOTHING is in the areas way back in the mountains. If you aren't from the area it's hard to visualize, but there are communities hours away from civilization, deep in the hills and forest. Only small excursions have been able to go back that far. The true horror is going to come out when these sheltered, very out of the way communities are finally contacted. I don't even want to image the devasation.
Tensions are rising in the area, especially with FEMA and state police. I fully expect armed confrontations between locals and the authorities sometime in the next couple of weeks.
Saw that too, and I personally think its likely. The Appalachian people are armed to the teeth. These aren't tourists trapped on Hawaii when it was burning. These are the descendants of the same Saxons who braved the wilderness in the Pre-Founding days.
The government is fucking with the wrong group of people.
You have identified one of the problems with Federalism with your addition of state police. State and local governments run by Democrats are as bad or worse as the Federales and get less attention. On the bright side, they have fewer resources. Western NC needs to look at the Greater Idaho movement for guidance.
FEMA confiscated supplies in Lahaina, too. Locals outsmarted FEMA by running their own boats up the shore to Lahaina from Kihei to bring supplies to those in need. The FEMA workers stayed in $1,000 a night rooms while displaced Maui residents slept in tents. FEMA is defunct, having given a BILLION dollars to the illegal alien invaders and now has no money for Americans. Defund FEMA. Fire everyone who works for it. Build something new.
The government lies about there being only 100 dead. There was supposed to be a $6 billion fund and no one has seen any of that money. Hundreds of people are still in tents after a year. The death total is closer to 800-1,000, including hundreds of kids. Fewer than 100 housing permits have been given to date for 2,500 houses that burned. Everything the State says is a lie.
"So when the regime fumble’s the response to a disaster, many will assume that it did so deliberately."
When you have the resources and the ability, and more importantly the solemn duty by virtue of having authority and having confiscated and taxed assets of the citizens in need, it doesn't matter if you fumble deliberately or not:
Fumbling is an act of treason against the people and a crime, period.
Apart from that, there's not much I can write that wouldn't be actionable.
I see this as the crisis of incompetence that we have here in the US now combined with greed. The Asheville area is one of the most liberal in NC outside the urban areas; no conspiracy there but the city council were all diversity feel good electees. There was little to no disaster planning. People were allowed to build in a known floodplain; see the Asheville flood of 1914. Then look at governors that didn't have any disaster planning; zero coordination ready with other states. The NC national guard should have been activated as soon as the storm track was fairly confirmed. Now the Feds roll in and start forcing everything under their aegis because rice bowls. Serious aid will now be on hold until Congress passes a disaster relief package because FEMA is broke at the beginning of the fiscal year. Christ, Chimney Rock is being bulldozed:
Hundred percent. I remember the motto. it was “whoever dies with the most toys wins” there were many bumper stickers all over with that.
That was also the disgusting decade that women started putting their own precious weeks-old babies with strangers and going to work full-time, spending a half hour with the kid at home at night before they would go to sleep. They called this half hour “quality time“
How many crazies could fall for these things is unimaginable to me. a bond between a mother and her baby it’s supposed to be the strongest thing there is.
The mine is the only source of quartz crucibles to make silicon wafers used in modern chips. I can only go by what people are posting and sharing on X but the media is definitely sugar-coating the whole situation.
So, I saw this being discussed. Later saw someone pointing out that the quartz mines there are really the source of the best quartz, but not the only quartz. There are other sites that provide material that's almost as good, and which can be refined to the necessary purity. There are also apparently reasonable stockpiles in inventory.
I would be tempted to say that unless Ghaddafi's gold was stored there, they wouldn't bother doing the trip.
Many people seem to be currently buying the narrative of "yeah, there's lithium there" when it does not hold actually.
I guess that the real reason is too absurd to consider - have no clue myself
Sincerely asking what it could be
I mean.. "lithium"! The white house lately turned into some free coke party they have all they need - so a good question would be what is it they "don't have" and that triggers efforts there
It's the downstream effect; how quickly can other sources be brought online and how much is a stockpile on scale? A defunct mine will take a few months, at best, to bring online. Hopefully some enterprising soul is working the problem right now. The mine is flooded and will be for the foreseeable future. Just another point failure in our GloboCap system.
while some are still trapped in their basements, with few water and food, the admins go to the mountains, to what seems to be a remote location (indicating they are in motion and CAN act, even in remote places)... and once there they level up the ground (while the human body could still make it despite being under the rubles), and start to rebuild the "church" (or whatever)
of course i could put this one some "panicking" aspect, or the mind loss that the present admin features. Without any doubt. But this hints as well as a place of interest to them.
That emerging "parallel polis" in the wake of a withered, degraded and decadent state is par for the course in countries like South Africa. I wrote here awhile back that if Harris is installed, the US will rapidly become an amalgam of South Africa and Argentina, and that's exactly what we're witnessing here.
Zimbabwe was a comprehensive success for global elites. The mines kept running, Mugabe banked abroad, the destruction of agriculture removed a competitor for American, Canadian and Australian grain growers and just about everybody across the West passed the ordeal of civility inflicted by the imposition of majority rule by not vocalizing their observations.
Regarding the stories of FEMA officials interfering with private relief efforts. Could the local sheriffs arrest the FEMA officials who do this? There must be something they could be charged with. Reckless endangerment? Theft under the color of law? Manslaughter? Attempted murder? Interfering with official police business?
I have friends with helicopters; who flew uninterrupted for days. Not sure there is any validity to that story. At least not from what I can tell. It’s a literal fabrication for clicks…
There are signs of hope here. FL seems to be modeling a new (old?) way for states to relate to each other, without the by-your-leave of the fedgov.
And people are getting right and properly pissed with FEMA. I am waiting for the first local or state government (or civilian mob) to give them an armed escort out of town. Not this time around, I think... but it's coming.
FEMA being utterly useless, and even worse than useless, while Florida more than pulls its weight, is definitely a big angle here. Decay of federal government, state governments rising to take up the burden (and, ultimately, the sovereignty).
FEMA's always been useless. I've lived on the Gulf Coast most of my life, been through two direct hits with major hurricanes, and FEMA are the people who show up a week late, tie up local govt. resources because somebody's got to "coordinate" with them, and then end up writing checks to people to repair their stupid beachfront condos while everybody else spends a year fighting with insurance companies to get their roofs replaced. About the only useful thing they do is bring in trailers for low-income people who've lost their houses. But the catch is, those are temporary, and they repo them after a year or two. At that point most of them are trashed, and can't be re-used in another disaster, so it'd be far more efficient to just *give* them away, but that's not in the rulebook so... (shrugs). And most of the people who lived in them are once again homeless, because... (big shock) they still can't afford to replace the house they lost. Because they're old and disabled, or have an 85 IQ and that's why they were poor to begin with. Everything about that program makes little sense from the perspective of rendering aid. I assume it makes sense from the perspective of make-work nepo jobs for useless people who have a cousin who works for the .gov.
There’s more fake news about the govt being dicks during this storm than I have ever seen. I have been working the thing the entire time with crews on the ground. Authorities have been nothing short of amazing (which has not been the case in the past) … so I have to stick up for these people who are busting their backs trying to be cool and help. It’s sad the internet has become such a dis info storm since the conspiracy movement got sold down the river 10 Years go. Now it’s run by fakes and frauds. Gross gross gross. I am sickened and saddened that we can’t congratulate law enforcement and people on the state level when they do a good job. I can send video and pictures to back up everything I said above …
Yea mostly state, we are working NC. Please view Cletus Mcfarlands chopper video. He flew for 2-3 days with no issues. My friend is the one who tipped him off to go. Also here is a video of one of my crews dropping supplies in Burnsville. I haven’t had time to upload a ton of the vids yet. But more coming .
I saw the interview with the couple where the wife was rescued by the helicopter pilot who was threatened with arrest. So the statement “the authorities are great” lasts until it doesn’t. Many of the people in government are there only because they enjoy the power-trip. They like to be in charge and can’t stand for anyone to get in the way of their game. And the hanger-ons are usually even worse. Pathological narcissists the lot of them.
Everyone following the federal chain of command is an enemy to the states and the populace. They are not authorities. FEMA is a foreign army. When the DOD attacked the states with the covid jabs, they violated our trust and forfeited all constitutional privileges and duties. The government entity has been in total warfare with the population since the covid lockdowns. They haven't stopped attacking our food supply or our supply chain infrastructure. They haven't stopped using forest fire and flooding to kill us and to steal our land and children. Right now, the federal entity has a population of millions locked down in a deadly situation. They are killing people. You love your oppressor and abuser to a disgusting extent, and I hope that you're a shill, because I find it hard to believe that someone could be as upside down as you are.
I'm glad "The Authorities" have been great where you are. Bear in mind that you only know what *you* see. Things happen out of your sight that tell different stories.
Again, thats a video of a random person driving in NC. All his other videos are animal rescue. ANIMAL RESCUE IN CALIFORNIA. how does a musician astrologer animal rescue guy have a "rescue team"? Do a little research.
I mean I can yes. I’ve been doing this for many years; made documentaries about it etc etc… So people who know me already know what I’m about. But now that I see blatant lies are being bandied about; I can see the need is real. Makes me sick to see this stuff
Yeah I mean we have done a lot of work over the past 7-8 years to build a sustainable civilian response infrastructure just in case the offical responses were shit. But we basically forced them to reform over the years; at least on the state level, and I’m very happy about that. I’m happy when we civilians are not needed. But we are ready either way!
I just posted the following on Tree of Woe, and I'm reposting here:
You what's the only way this could be worse? If FEMA took the confisc--sorry, stolen stuff and gave it to illegal migrants. Naturally, somebody should keep an eye on that, because I asses 50% chance of that happening.
The Mandate of Heaven is descending upon Donald Trump, for all of the reasons that you enumerate at the end of your essay. Many people are gradually realizing the extent of gaslighting and lawfare that the powers-that-be have been directing at them. They are ashamed of themselves, and they seem willing to pay a price (cancellation) to atone.
There seems to be a cascade effect emerging among the traditional liberals. Some, like Bret Weinstein, were defenestrated into being wide awake. Others are coming along now. Here is one from today, an adjunct academic, and a very good writer:
"This is my career suicide note . . . . Your hatred and censorship has taught me to admire @realDonaldTrumpand to love my fellow working-class Americans, and for that I thank you.
"This vote is for all the traumatized people who have been canceled and banished just for saying no to the establishment. This vote is for the surveyor, the farmer, the HVAC man, the nurse, the hairstylist, the Deadhead, the veteran, and my fellow adjunct professors who have told me their stories about being bullied by the Democrats in their friends and family and their colleagues at work. This is for the young Black woman in my class last year who, on the day of Kamala Harris’s visit to campus, said, “You’re going to hate me, Dr. Armstrong, but I’m not going. I’m voting for Donald Trump.” Why would she think I would hate her for the way she votes? What has happened to our country?"
The cascade has me thinking of the line from the e. e. cummings poem, "i sing of olaf glad and big"--
When you told the story about your ice storm as a teenager I knew exactly where you were going with it JC. The shit that has happened since 2000 has come from somewhere out of the Twilight Zone. Your list nailed it perfectly.
That being said we conspiracy theorists (I think we all are by now) have a moral responsibility. We must error on the side of truth.
I recently heard on a podcast a quote from that Cass Sunstein pos. He basically said we must take an existing theory and turn it into batshit crazy. It’s as I suspected the goal is to make the entire thing look foolish and unbelievable.
We shouldn’t take the bait but I am unsure if that’s even possible at this juncture given the level of insanity we have already witnessed.
...and "self assembling wifi nanobots" and "Tha JOOZ" and "FEMA concentration camps" and "UFO technology" and "Pedo Satanic Panic" and...
It's how you get all the sane normal people to just back right out of the nearest exit, instead of continuing on any trajectory that might lead to a grassroots political movement. Any organizing that wants to get past the shooting-the-breeze stage needs tight security that bounces anybody the millisecond they start any of that. Otherwise... well, you can watch it happen in realtime, any time a combox or forum starts to coalesce around a shared political concern: in come the paid schizobots to torpedo the discussion. The internet has made their lives super easy. Back in the 90s when they were busy blowing up the burgeoning militia movement in the US, they had to actually send real live agents out to infiltrate meetings and rile up the local overexcitable dumbasses. Lotta manpower. Now? One dude can blow up 20 internet forums from the comfort of his cubicle. A miracle of modern technology.
A prominent example of this is Taylor Swift. The actual "conspiracy theory" is that she made an agreement behind closed doors, in which she gets a boost to her career in exchange for declaring support for Democrats, and using her newfound star power to influence the election. You might recall a news cycle when the propagandists made up wild stories about satanic sacrifice or whatever, and pretending that was the accusation against her in order to run interference and discredit any speculation. And right on cue, she recently declared for the Harris/Walz ticket. Given how well the facts line up, combined with media libel, the story is very likely true.
That girl-with-puppy image is creepy AF, manipulative AF, and I almost blocked you when I saw it, like I've been blocking everybody else in my substack feed who has reposted that shite.
Please for the love of Pete, don't repost AI uncannyvalley garbage. Even to criticize it. I swear it's demonic and it contaminates everything it touches.
And that is why I didn't block him, and why I have blocked every other rat bastard who's been shoving it in my face. But it was a close call, and mostly I don't have the time, and don't want to give the "engagement" clicks, to internet manipulators.
But as a general rule, instablocking anybody using obvious AI image generator pictures, has drastically improved the quality of my substack feed. Try it sometime. It's fun.
Aww, I bet you let everybody who comes to your door come in and have dinner with your family and stay the night, too? I mean, having any kind of boundaries is anti-freedom, right? Do you also leave the TV on all the time, because turning it off would block critical information? Is using screens to keep mosquitoes out of your house bad, too? Are you one of those weirdos who advocate people sending their kids to failing public schools, because failing to do so shelters them too much? Six year olds need to be exposed to all the dysfunction of the "real world" right? Otherwise we're depriving them. Censoring, even. eh?
It takes an average of all the real photos out there on the internet, which have been selected for their visual impact-- we're not talking about a pool of just all photos, we're talking about a winnowed-down pool of images taken by nat. geo photogs and stuff, where the light was perfect, and the subject was compelling, and everybody was looking directly at the camera with big soulful eyes-- and then doing some kind of electronic averaging voodoo with them to come out with images that have all the *qualities* that made the originals compelling, minus the *being actually real* part.
That is emotionally manipulative, and I am effing *allergic* to emotional manipulation. It makes me want to punch people.
To be brutally frank, the first half of this article is outside the scope of credible, in my reference system. **That doesn't mean it's false**, just that it's so wild I'll have to do additional digging to verify. Fortunately, I just so happen to know one person from the area on another Internet forum. :) Said person called in after the storm, and some days later to report the power came back online. Also, from what the person said, the person still has a job to go to. But I'll run this article by that person when I see that person next time. :)
Friend outside Asheville reports: no electricity, no internet, very patchy phone service, neighborhood is OK, using generator to charge phones, but nobody can get in or out by vehicle because creek washed out all the bridges. Using generator intermittently to run the well, and keep food from spoiling. 8 days in, on the verge of re-establishing vehicle exit: men and teenagers in the neighborhood have banded together, used somebody's tractor and everybody's chainsaws, stripped all the fallen trees and moved resulting logs to temporarily patch up a road washout, and getting ready to use the rest to create a shallow crossing where trucks can ford the creek. They are doing fine, haven't seen any govt. (or other) assistance, haven't needed it.
The other 4 people I know in W.NC all came through fine, and not hearing any wild tales of piles of corpses or crazy conspiracy coverups. Yet. Won't discount automatically, but also won't give credit until I hear it from somebody I know IRL. People like to spread rumors. After Michael there were wild tales of FEMA and the "hundreds of body bags" etc. over in Mexico Beach. But the thing is, it's not a big city. You can't have that many people disappear and... nobody knows who they were. Names, addresses, who they were kin to. We only lost a few people, and we know who they were. Let me sit down five minutes with any random person from my home county, and we can figure out at least two mutual acquaintances. Maybe you could disappear a hundred people in NYC without having names for them. Not here, and especially not in Mexico Beach, which is a very small town where everybody knows everybody. Even the homeless hobos there are regulars that everybody recognizes and has nicknames for... and we'd notice if they disappeared.
Like in any disaster where comms are down, there are more missing reports than there are corpses, simply because phone service is out, and people are desperate to get in touch with relatives but can't physically get to them. That'll start getting sorted out soon, as contact gets re-established. Yeah, a lot of people died. Probably hundreds not thousands.
I think they are, just from the initial missing persons numbers. If you've got something like 600-ish missing, then a lot of those are going to turn out to be... somebody who was simply cut off from phone service and will be removed from the list eventually. So it's a safe bet that the complete death toll will be under 600, but more than the 215 I saw at last count. I could be wrong, in the end, but we're at a stage now where volunteers have gotten to most places, names lists are being posted for just: hey we made contact with these 23 people in XYZ area, and they're OK. Not seeing signs that the numbers will go suddenly exponential. A week is a lot of time for out-of-town friends and relatives to panic and put out a welfare-check request. It will take a long time to get a complete tally, just because... mud, wreckage, and currents will make it hard to find them all. But as contact gets re-established, it'll get more accurate.
There’s no power still where my mother lives. My sister has no water. A friend of the family who left to stay in Charlotte told us that the water company called her and said there would be no water for possibly MONTHS in some areas of Asheville because the water came through Swannanoa and the infrastructure was *completely* destroyed. So the truth - as usual - is somewhere in the middle of Pollyanna-everything-is-great-because-the-party-I-like-is-in-office and everything-is-Hell-because-the-party-I-hate-is-in-office.
I grew up in Western NC, and my 81 year old mother is still there and had to ride out the storm alone. She lost power and cell phone service but the house (on a hillside) survived with little damage. The ground was so saturated that 3" of water welled up into the basement. Many others were badly damaged, mostly from falling trees, and the houses lower down the hillside were flooded. Fortunately, the next door neighbors have a generator and satellite internet, and she was able to tell me she was OK, but the roads were washed out and there was no way out of town. She just got back cellular service last night, but needs to recharge the phone at the neighbors house. She said the road repair is going fairly quickly, and Mountain Electric told her two to three days to restore power once the roads reopen. There are people living on the Toe River and Squirrel Creek that would regularly get flooding during very heavy rains, even though the rest of the area didn't experience any. I would bet that they have been literally scoured from those small valleys or "hollers". These valleys are steep, so roads are quite literally wagon trails that have been widened and paved, and are usually close to the riverbanks where the terrain is a little flatter.
Reports on military chain of command preventing units close by from helping: CONFIRMED
I'm currently going through the backlog of their Wire reports.
BEWARE: S2Underground is suspected to be a false-flag US SOF outlet, however there's *no* actual evidence for this and they have generally been accurate, historically.
And that is what is like in the best of times. At the moment a public sprited commander would look like a potential Napoleon to the regime. They would freak out.
If assisting police in peace-keeping (which hasn't happened since the 1930s) then you'd need orders from the top (political).
But for disaster relief, it's enough that the local relief co-ordinator ask the nearest military base for assistance, no politicians involved (in some cases, for a politician to stick their nose in such matters would be illegal).
It all dates back to ancient military tradition here, since there's always been so few of us: Man on the spot is in charge and makes the call, is the operating principle. That way, any one of any rank can do what he thinks is appropriate without fearing legal persecution later (provided the action is itself legal, of course).
There is a Substack author CoronaLisa who was directly affected. She has posted a few Notes. If you’re looking for answers, maybe she could provide some. I believe she’s near Chimney Rock, one of the hard hit areas.
This is precisely the same point I’ve been making.
It’s not that there are people who believe that their government is working against them, they’re actively witnessing it.
It was once thought that anyone who questioned the government was a “conspiracy theorist” but now it’s the other way around.
Now we have “coincidence theorists” running around trying to explain away deliberate actions [of government officials] that have resulted in easily predictable bad outcomes.
The time for questioning the intention of those who are stopping things from working is over.
It’s like tinkering with something that is already not working -- it’s already not working, what danger is there in trying to fix it yourself?
This is where many in NC are right now. The government is not working, so people are finding a way to help each other, and themselves. This is how the future will likely play out. Government will be taking much less of a role in peoples' everyday lives.
Another way to look at this -- what would happen if there was a serious attack on US soil? Could the government even deal with it? Apparently not.
I have a friend whose company supports disaster relief in North Carolina, they have assisted in the past coastal hurricanes. Her son flew helicopters in the service, is licensed to fly and as far they knew they were still licensed to operate and assist during this disaster. Her son was grounded, given the rationale that their organization had not received approval from the United Way, who is one of the NGOs coordinating with FEMA.
Fort Bragg in is the same state, they have been to stand down. We are at Day 5 and those resource - particularly the helicopters - have not been ordered in. Two days after the hurricane, the Tennessee National Guard was deployed overseas, but that should matter because Fort Bragg is the fucking state.
This government, operating actively to harm the people, dissolved the contract with us. We are duty bound to disobey it at every turn. Especially where FEMA is concerned. If you look up the law that create FEMA, is has ZERO authority to deny anyone access to an emergency area, it's charter states clearly it is an organization that collaborates and supports disaster recovery efforts. State and local law enforcement, acting on the orders of the governor have authority, according to North Carolina law that is to the extent that someone is interfering with rescue / recovery efforts. Driving on a back road doesn't qualify. And where the federal government derives the power to confer authority on a private entity such as the United Way that can ground pilots is beyond me. FAA can, the governor can, but FEMA? Nope.
The border is now closed between North Carolina and Tennessee. This is far worse than the flood itself, and more brazen than Covid. We are under no obligation to use the same system to vote it out of existence if that system has nullified it's power because they are used unconstitutionally to the harm of the US citizens. Pick any Founding Father and read their ideas about what is required when a govt acts in this manner and it's clear we're are duty bound to resist and end that form of government.
I'm a little heated because I have friends and my sister in the state, one outside of Asheville who luckily was unharmed.
You're not the only one whose emotions are riding high over this. And justifiably so.
I should have mentioned that some of the NG units had already been sent to support Our Greatest Ally. What a slap in the face, and what a clear demonstration of priorities.
I’ll be posting a podcast session with Pm, who has run assistance for hurricane relief. Her son is the one who was grounded yesterday. Prior to FEMA showing up on day three, private efforts were make good progress. Once the feds found that people were stepping on the turf, they’ve slowed things down. And I think we have to ask the basic question: who is going to know the back roads, the territories, the terrain better, locals or FEMA? FEMA should stack boxes, and watch the warehouses. That’s about it. Nat Guard and army does insertion and extraction, yet they are not there in any great number. And if the Gov doesn’t locals to help, the state of emergency should contain those orders instead of FEMA assuming authority which it doesn’t have.
I think you've hit the nail on the head here. Government is supposed to work with the citizenry, not against it. They seem instead to be actively thwarting rescue and relief efforts. I think the political class has forgotten that they were elected to serve.
The people
Nobody is making some helicopters stay on the ground, it's probably about money to buy the fuel and so forth. The company will stay grounded until somebody cuts them a check, otherwise it's on their own resources. Plenty of helicopters are flying, drawing from other resources. I also have no idea what you mean by the "border" being closed, It's got to be hundreds of miles long through Appalachia.
It's always about money ... Earmarked for Israel
In your mind "Israel" must be the size of Asia Major
it's a tiny drop in the vast ocean
What are you even talking about. Israel and Ukraine are tiny nations that get many billions in aid.
That so-called Border Protection Bill that the Democrats are always moaning about provided $60 BILLION to Ukraine and $14 BILLION for Israel. It is a shame the mountain people in the USA cannot get the help they need. It is almost like the government wants poor people out of the mountains so there will be room for millionaires in the new condos that will be built.
Mark Twain famously said, "Everybody talks about the weather, but nobody does anything about it". Of course, now the government has the ability to create storms and to poison us through chemtrails.
"...millionaires in the new condos that will be built."
overseeing their foreign slaves working in the toxic mines
we have to keep them seperate from the political prisoners
About 1/3 of the money for "Israel" went to Hamas adjacent organizations.
which is a minor drop in the federal ocean
Ukraine is not "tiny" either
I'm from near the area, and have many friends from up there.
All the "rumors" about the horrors up there are absolutely true. The death toll, based off of accounts of people I personally know in the region, is AT THE LOWEST MINIMUM 2000.
The National Guard has done some work, but most of it are private citizens who are dodging supplies confiscation and arrest from FEMA and police.
But where the authorities have done NOTHING is in the areas way back in the mountains. If you aren't from the area it's hard to visualize, but there are communities hours away from civilization, deep in the hills and forest. Only small excursions have been able to go back that far. The true horror is going to come out when these sheltered, very out of the way communities are finally contacted. I don't even want to image the devasation.
Tensions are rising in the area, especially with FEMA and state police. I fully expect armed confrontations between locals and the authorities sometime in the next couple of weeks.
Saw a rumor on X that at least one FEMA agent got the tar smacked out of him. Not a lot of sympathy for him, either.
Saw that too, and I personally think its likely. The Appalachian people are armed to the teeth. These aren't tourists trapped on Hawaii when it was burning. These are the descendants of the same Saxons who braved the wilderness in the Pre-Founding days.
The government is fucking with the wrong group of people.
You have identified one of the problems with Federalism with your addition of state police. State and local governments run by Democrats are as bad or worse as the Federales and get less attention. On the bright side, they have fewer resources. Western NC needs to look at the Greater Idaho movement for guidance.
FEMA confiscated supplies in Lahaina, too. Locals outsmarted FEMA by running their own boats up the shore to Lahaina from Kihei to bring supplies to those in need. The FEMA workers stayed in $1,000 a night rooms while displaced Maui residents slept in tents. FEMA is defunct, having given a BILLION dollars to the illegal alien invaders and now has no money for Americans. Defund FEMA. Fire everyone who works for it. Build something new.
Yes, I heard the response in Maui was also suspiciously “incompetent”.
Land grab in Maui.
That's definitely what it looked like.
Land grab here as well. This is their playbook. Psychopaths should be put on an ice floé and set out to sea.
“Should.”
At a certain point in a disaster, if you have people thwarting the recovery. Well, let’s just say they’re never gonna account for all of the bodies.
There are stories from Lahaina that still ask to be elucidated. Like this EARLY report there were 1k to 2k dead. https://sonar21.com/is-the-government-of-hawaii-lying-about-the-missing-and-dead-on-maui/ Again, this was an early report. Maybe that was the best estimate at the time?
The government lies about there being only 100 dead. There was supposed to be a $6 billion fund and no one has seen any of that money. Hundreds of people are still in tents after a year. The death total is closer to 800-1,000, including hundreds of kids. Fewer than 100 housing permits have been given to date for 2,500 houses that burned. Everything the State says is a lie.
In a real Emergency one redneck neighbor is worth more than 1000 PhDs.
"So when the regime fumble’s the response to a disaster, many will assume that it did so deliberately."
When you have the resources and the ability, and more importantly the solemn duty by virtue of having authority and having confiscated and taxed assets of the citizens in need, it doesn't matter if you fumble deliberately or not:
Fumbling is an act of treason against the people and a crime, period.
Apart from that, there's not much I can write that wouldn't be actionable.
I see this as the crisis of incompetence that we have here in the US now combined with greed. The Asheville area is one of the most liberal in NC outside the urban areas; no conspiracy there but the city council were all diversity feel good electees. There was little to no disaster planning. People were allowed to build in a known floodplain; see the Asheville flood of 1914. Then look at governors that didn't have any disaster planning; zero coordination ready with other states. The NC national guard should have been activated as soon as the storm track was fairly confirmed. Now the Feds roll in and start forcing everything under their aegis because rice bowls. Serious aid will now be on hold until Congress passes a disaster relief package because FEMA is broke at the beginning of the fiscal year. Christ, Chimney Rock is being bulldozed:
https://revolver.news/2024/10/harris-biden-heartless-land-grab-in-chimney-rock-nc-town-to-be-bulldozed-before-removal-of-the-dead/
The reaction and indifference of the "ruling class" is infuriating.
I think first, in the 1980s, Greed was made Good.
Then, in the 2000s, Greed was made God.
Hundred percent. I remember the motto. it was “whoever dies with the most toys wins” there were many bumper stickers all over with that.
That was also the disgusting decade that women started putting their own precious weeks-old babies with strangers and going to work full-time, spending a half hour with the kid at home at night before they would go to sleep. They called this half hour “quality time“
How many crazies could fall for these things is unimaginable to me. a bond between a mother and her baby it’s supposed to be the strongest thing there is.
"Christ, Chimney Rock is being bulldozed:"
Is being what?
Browsing through the comments, there seems to be a [quartz] mine there
This is starting to eerily look like the German 2021 floods (where very unusual things have been reported)
The mine is the only source of quartz crucibles to make silicon wafers used in modern chips. I can only go by what people are posting and sharing on X but the media is definitely sugar-coating the whole situation.
So, I saw this being discussed. Later saw someone pointing out that the quartz mines there are really the source of the best quartz, but not the only quartz. There are other sites that provide material that's almost as good, and which can be refined to the necessary purity. There are also apparently reasonable stockpiles in inventory.
I would be tempted to say that unless Ghaddafi's gold was stored there, they wouldn't bother doing the trip.
Many people seem to be currently buying the narrative of "yeah, there's lithium there" when it does not hold actually.
I guess that the real reason is too absurd to consider - have no clue myself
Sincerely asking what it could be
I mean.. "lithium"! The white house lately turned into some free coke party they have all they need - so a good question would be what is it they "don't have" and that triggers efforts there
truly asking for creative ideas
It's the downstream effect; how quickly can other sources be brought online and how much is a stockpile on scale? A defunct mine will take a few months, at best, to bring online. Hopefully some enterprising soul is working the problem right now. The mine is flooded and will be for the foreseeable future. Just another point failure in our GloboCap system.
Yeah, pretty wild sub-story there that has global implications: https://www.axios.com/local/charlotte/2024/10/01/hurricane-helene-tech-chip-shortage-spruce-pine-quartz-supply
1916 - the "biblical" flood.
Thanks for the correction.The pictures from then were crazy.
I grew up not far from there. Oldtimers still talked about it when I was a kid.
what matters is that I see the following
while some are still trapped in their basements, with few water and food, the admins go to the mountains, to what seems to be a remote location (indicating they are in motion and CAN act, even in remote places)... and once there they level up the ground (while the human body could still make it despite being under the rubles), and start to rebuild the "church" (or whatever)
of course i could put this one some "panicking" aspect, or the mind loss that the present admin features. Without any doubt. But this hints as well as a place of interest to them.
That emerging "parallel polis" in the wake of a withered, degraded and decadent state is par for the course in countries like South Africa. I wrote here awhile back that if Harris is installed, the US will rapidly become an amalgam of South Africa and Argentina, and that's exactly what we're witnessing here.
Bingo. The Democrats aspire to function as the ANC of a nation transformed by replacement level immigration.
Global Zimbabwe.
Zimbabwe was a comprehensive success for global elites. The mines kept running, Mugabe banked abroad, the destruction of agriculture removed a competitor for American, Canadian and Australian grain growers and just about everybody across the West passed the ordeal of civility inflicted by the imposition of majority rule by not vocalizing their observations.
God that's dark.
Not inaccurate, mind you.
Sounds like you follow Robert Duigan's Marhobane Substack. He's very good on this (as he's South African): https://marhobane.substack.com/
In particular: https://marhobane.substack.com/p/civilisational-brinkmanship
Never heard of him, actually.
He is worth looking up. Based. Sound-headed. He has a twitter account.
https://x.com/uMarhobane
Cheers!
Was interviewed by BAP on CR ep. 144 "Capetown" - well worth a listen
Regarding the stories of FEMA officials interfering with private relief efforts. Could the local sheriffs arrest the FEMA officials who do this? There must be something they could be charged with. Reckless endangerment? Theft under the color of law? Manslaughter? Attempted murder? Interfering with official police business?
That was just one Barney Fife. Someone else allowed the man to land nearby and continue his rescuing efforts.
that's NOT what he said
he made the 3 minute trip back and got his son
he continued the next day, but not that day
leaving the old husband stranded, who hiked out on his own, whilst the wife stayed with strangers, her whereabouts unknown to the husband
The next day. Okay.
I remembered he did more later and others were helpful.
I have friends with helicopters; who flew uninterrupted for days. Not sure there is any validity to that story. At least not from what I can tell. It’s a literal fabrication for clicks…
But not you, just more hearsay to battle hearsay. "MY FRIENDS" BUT NOT YOU. was the "team" real in your mind?
There are signs of hope here. FL seems to be modeling a new (old?) way for states to relate to each other, without the by-your-leave of the fedgov.
And people are getting right and properly pissed with FEMA. I am waiting for the first local or state government (or civilian mob) to give them an armed escort out of town. Not this time around, I think... but it's coming.
FEMA being utterly useless, and even worse than useless, while Florida more than pulls its weight, is definitely a big angle here. Decay of federal government, state governments rising to take up the burden (and, ultimately, the sovereignty).
FEMA's always been useless. I've lived on the Gulf Coast most of my life, been through two direct hits with major hurricanes, and FEMA are the people who show up a week late, tie up local govt. resources because somebody's got to "coordinate" with them, and then end up writing checks to people to repair their stupid beachfront condos while everybody else spends a year fighting with insurance companies to get their roofs replaced. About the only useful thing they do is bring in trailers for low-income people who've lost their houses. But the catch is, those are temporary, and they repo them after a year or two. At that point most of them are trashed, and can't be re-used in another disaster, so it'd be far more efficient to just *give* them away, but that's not in the rulebook so... (shrugs). And most of the people who lived in them are once again homeless, because... (big shock) they still can't afford to replace the house they lost. Because they're old and disabled, or have an 85 IQ and that's why they were poor to begin with. Everything about that program makes little sense from the perspective of rendering aid. I assume it makes sense from the perspective of make-work nepo jobs for useless people who have a cousin who works for the .gov.
There’s more fake news about the govt being dicks during this storm than I have ever seen. I have been working the thing the entire time with crews on the ground. Authorities have been nothing short of amazing (which has not been the case in the past) … so I have to stick up for these people who are busting their backs trying to be cool and help. It’s sad the internet has become such a dis info storm since the conspiracy movement got sold down the river 10 Years go. Now it’s run by fakes and frauds. Gross gross gross. I am sickened and saddened that we can’t congratulate law enforcement and people on the state level when they do a good job. I can send video and pictures to back up everything I said above …
Thanks for sharing this. I've only seen the one story about a pilot being told not to fly, but that definitely made the rounds so was worth including.
Can I ask whether it's state or federal authorities you're working with? And, which state are you operating in?
Yea mostly state, we are working NC. Please view Cletus Mcfarlands chopper video. He flew for 2-3 days with no issues. My friend is the one who tipped him off to go. Also here is a video of one of my crews dropping supplies in Burnsville. I haven’t had time to upload a ton of the vids yet. But more coming .
https://youtube.com/shorts/Vy7hzKZNsVI?feature=share
I saw the interview with the couple where the wife was rescued by the helicopter pilot who was threatened with arrest. So the statement “the authorities are great” lasts until it doesn’t. Many of the people in government are there only because they enjoy the power-trip. They like to be in charge and can’t stand for anyone to get in the way of their game. And the hanger-ons are usually even worse. Pathological narcissists the lot of them.
Everyone following the federal chain of command is an enemy to the states and the populace. They are not authorities. FEMA is a foreign army. When the DOD attacked the states with the covid jabs, they violated our trust and forfeited all constitutional privileges and duties. The government entity has been in total warfare with the population since the covid lockdowns. They haven't stopped attacking our food supply or our supply chain infrastructure. They haven't stopped using forest fire and flooding to kill us and to steal our land and children. Right now, the federal entity has a population of millions locked down in a deadly situation. They are killing people. You love your oppressor and abuser to a disgusting extent, and I hope that you're a shill, because I find it hard to believe that someone could be as upside down as you are.
Very well said. Likely a paid shill
I'm glad "The Authorities" have been great where you are. Bear in mind that you only know what *you* see. Things happen out of your sight that tell different stories.
This fraud is an astologer based out of Santa monica, ca. He hasnt written a single thing about this on his own substack
He's also an expert in rescue response. Check out the link to his YT video.
Again, thats a video of a random person driving in NC. All his other videos are animal rescue. ANIMAL RESCUE IN CALIFORNIA. how does a musician astrologer animal rescue guy have a "rescue team"? Do a little research.
So I take this piece to be about the Federal level of assistance? Not the local and state level which I’m sure is completely overwhelmed?
My daughter lived in Asheville until 2010, it was Ft. Bragg then. Has this base been deployed to the region? If so, when?
My teams are yes; and have been for about a week!
Would it be obnoxious to suggest maybe writing a story about what's happening on the ground?
Maybe a first hand account from someone who's there now and has been since day one?
I'm in Ireland so there's little I can do personally
I mean I can yes. I’ve been doing this for many years; made documentaries about it etc etc… So people who know me already know what I’m about. But now that I see blatant lies are being bandied about; I can see the need is real. Makes me sick to see this stuff
I think this would be very valuable. Would be interested to read it myself.
Yeah I mean we have done a lot of work over the past 7-8 years to build a sustainable civilian response infrastructure just in case the offical responses were shit. But we basically forced them to reform over the years; at least on the state level, and I’m very happy about that. I’m happy when we civilians are not needed. But we are ready either way!
https://open.substack.com/pub/austinmuhs/p/the-current-state-of-affairs-for?r=1h2lt9&utm_medium=ios
https://www.amazon.com/People-Power-Civilian-Rescue-Movement/dp/B088YGS77N that’s my doc for the record
Maybe yes, maybe no but I'm not paying five or thirteen bucks to find out.
But YOU aren't. You don't have first person experience.
When, in the course of human events……
This has been going through my mind much, of late.
I just posted the following on Tree of Woe, and I'm reposting here:
You what's the only way this could be worse? If FEMA took the confisc--sorry, stolen stuff and gave it to illegal migrants. Naturally, somebody should keep an eye on that, because I asses 50% chance of that happening.
That would not be remotely surprising.
The Mandate of Heaven is descending upon Donald Trump, for all of the reasons that you enumerate at the end of your essay. Many people are gradually realizing the extent of gaslighting and lawfare that the powers-that-be have been directing at them. They are ashamed of themselves, and they seem willing to pay a price (cancellation) to atone.
There seems to be a cascade effect emerging among the traditional liberals. Some, like Bret Weinstein, were defenestrated into being wide awake. Others are coming along now. Here is one from today, an adjunct academic, and a very good writer:
https://x.com/mcarmystrong/status/1842187462321561861
"This is my career suicide note . . . . Your hatred and censorship has taught me to admire @realDonaldTrumpand to love my fellow working-class Americans, and for that I thank you.
"This vote is for all the traumatized people who have been canceled and banished just for saying no to the establishment. This vote is for the surveyor, the farmer, the HVAC man, the nurse, the hairstylist, the Deadhead, the veteran, and my fellow adjunct professors who have told me their stories about being bullied by the Democrats in their friends and family and their colleagues at work. This is for the young Black woman in my class last year who, on the day of Kamala Harris’s visit to campus, said, “You’re going to hate me, Dr. Armstrong, but I’m not going. I’m voting for Donald Trump.” Why would she think I would hate her for the way she votes? What has happened to our country?"
The cascade has me thinking of the line from the e. e. cummings poem, "i sing of olaf glad and big"--
"there is some shit i will not eat."
Brilliant.
When you told the story about your ice storm as a teenager I knew exactly where you were going with it JC. The shit that has happened since 2000 has come from somewhere out of the Twilight Zone. Your list nailed it perfectly.
That being said we conspiracy theorists (I think we all are by now) have a moral responsibility. We must error on the side of truth.
I recently heard on a podcast a quote from that Cass Sunstein pos. He basically said we must take an existing theory and turn it into batshit crazy. It’s as I suspected the goal is to make the entire thing look foolish and unbelievable.
We shouldn’t take the bait but I am unsure if that’s even possible at this juncture given the level of insanity we have already witnessed.
Overloading conspiracy theory with crazy is one of their favorite tactics, eg the No Planes people with 9/11, or the No Virus people during COVID-19.
...and "self assembling wifi nanobots" and "Tha JOOZ" and "FEMA concentration camps" and "UFO technology" and "Pedo Satanic Panic" and...
It's how you get all the sane normal people to just back right out of the nearest exit, instead of continuing on any trajectory that might lead to a grassroots political movement. Any organizing that wants to get past the shooting-the-breeze stage needs tight security that bounces anybody the millisecond they start any of that. Otherwise... well, you can watch it happen in realtime, any time a combox or forum starts to coalesce around a shared political concern: in come the paid schizobots to torpedo the discussion. The internet has made their lives super easy. Back in the 90s when they were busy blowing up the burgeoning militia movement in the US, they had to actually send real live agents out to infiltrate meetings and rile up the local overexcitable dumbasses. Lotta manpower. Now? One dude can blow up 20 internet forums from the comfort of his cubicle. A miracle of modern technology.
A prominent example of this is Taylor Swift. The actual "conspiracy theory" is that she made an agreement behind closed doors, in which she gets a boost to her career in exchange for declaring support for Democrats, and using her newfound star power to influence the election. You might recall a news cycle when the propagandists made up wild stories about satanic sacrifice or whatever, and pretending that was the accusation against her in order to run interference and discredit any speculation. And right on cue, she recently declared for the Harris/Walz ticket. Given how well the facts line up, combined with media libel, the story is very likely true.
That girl-with-puppy image is creepy AF, manipulative AF, and I almost blocked you when I saw it, like I've been blocking everybody else in my substack feed who has reposted that shite.
Please for the love of Pete, don't repost AI uncannyvalley garbage. Even to criticize it. I swear it's demonic and it contaminates everything it touches.
It gave me the willies.
Ummm the author pointed out it was AI! Perhaps read it all instead of skimming….
And that is why I didn't block him, and why I have blocked every other rat bastard who's been shoving it in my face. But it was a close call, and mostly I don't have the time, and don't want to give the "engagement" clicks, to internet manipulators.
But as a general rule, instablocking anybody using obvious AI image generator pictures, has drastically improved the quality of my substack feed. Try it sometime. It's fun.
Pills. Take them.
Blocking the uncomfortable is anti free speech. Blocks critical thinking too.
Aww, I bet you let everybody who comes to your door come in and have dinner with your family and stay the night, too? I mean, having any kind of boundaries is anti-freedom, right? Do you also leave the TV on all the time, because turning it off would block critical information? Is using screens to keep mosquitoes out of your house bad, too? Are you one of those weirdos who advocate people sending their kids to failing public schools, because failing to do so shelters them too much? Six year olds need to be exposed to all the dysfunction of the "real world" right? Otherwise we're depriving them. Censoring, even. eh?
Oh yeah I'm the weird one. Paragraphs of bullshit
:D
Glad I made you feel better about yourself. It's a free service I provide.
Yeah... I remember that movie.. In it they were mentioning that stuff "Skynet"... Since then if I see "AI" I take my flamethrower out and start aiming
But I scare a lot of friends. I have no clue what to do really
AI is not "on the list" and never will.
I encourage you to make more advertising (I will) and we should build up a systematical counter-force for that "stuff"
Oh, look, the schizobots.
AI is too realistic without looking exactly real. As opposed to drawings or replicated light images.
It takes an average of all the real photos out there on the internet, which have been selected for their visual impact-- we're not talking about a pool of just all photos, we're talking about a winnowed-down pool of images taken by nat. geo photogs and stuff, where the light was perfect, and the subject was compelling, and everybody was looking directly at the camera with big soulful eyes-- and then doing some kind of electronic averaging voodoo with them to come out with images that have all the *qualities* that made the originals compelling, minus the *being actually real* part.
That is emotionally manipulative, and I am effing *allergic* to emotional manipulation. It makes me want to punch people.
I take it you don't binge on Hallmark Holiday rom coms. Lol
I don't even have a TV. That's like opening a sewer line right into your living room.
Nor do I. And I dislike cheesy rom coms.
And here I need a box of Kleenex just to make it through "Our Hearts Will Go On". You are stone!
Even so, AI art is like some inhuman intelligence trying to mimic the merely organic...for infiltration...
To be brutally frank, the first half of this article is outside the scope of credible, in my reference system. **That doesn't mean it's false**, just that it's so wild I'll have to do additional digging to verify. Fortunately, I just so happen to know one person from the area on another Internet forum. :) Said person called in after the storm, and some days later to report the power came back online. Also, from what the person said, the person still has a job to go to. But I'll run this article by that person when I see that person next time. :)
My understanding is that it’s the backwoods mountain areas that are cut off. Much of North Carolina is fine.
And yes, I agree some of the reports sound fucking crazy.
Friend outside Asheville reports: no electricity, no internet, very patchy phone service, neighborhood is OK, using generator to charge phones, but nobody can get in or out by vehicle because creek washed out all the bridges. Using generator intermittently to run the well, and keep food from spoiling. 8 days in, on the verge of re-establishing vehicle exit: men and teenagers in the neighborhood have banded together, used somebody's tractor and everybody's chainsaws, stripped all the fallen trees and moved resulting logs to temporarily patch up a road washout, and getting ready to use the rest to create a shallow crossing where trucks can ford the creek. They are doing fine, haven't seen any govt. (or other) assistance, haven't needed it.
The other 4 people I know in W.NC all came through fine, and not hearing any wild tales of piles of corpses or crazy conspiracy coverups. Yet. Won't discount automatically, but also won't give credit until I hear it from somebody I know IRL. People like to spread rumors. After Michael there were wild tales of FEMA and the "hundreds of body bags" etc. over in Mexico Beach. But the thing is, it's not a big city. You can't have that many people disappear and... nobody knows who they were. Names, addresses, who they were kin to. We only lost a few people, and we know who they were. Let me sit down five minutes with any random person from my home county, and we can figure out at least two mutual acquaintances. Maybe you could disappear a hundred people in NYC without having names for them. Not here, and especially not in Mexico Beach, which is a very small town where everybody knows everybody. Even the homeless hobos there are regulars that everybody recognizes and has nicknames for... and we'd notice if they disappeared.
Like in any disaster where comms are down, there are more missing reports than there are corpses, simply because phone service is out, and people are desperate to get in touch with relatives but can't physically get to them. That'll start getting sorted out soon, as contact gets re-established. Yeah, a lot of people died. Probably hundreds not thousands.
Let's hope the estimates of thousands - which I think are across the whole region, not just Asheville - are pessimistic.
I think they are, just from the initial missing persons numbers. If you've got something like 600-ish missing, then a lot of those are going to turn out to be... somebody who was simply cut off from phone service and will be removed from the list eventually. So it's a safe bet that the complete death toll will be under 600, but more than the 215 I saw at last count. I could be wrong, in the end, but we're at a stage now where volunteers have gotten to most places, names lists are being posted for just: hey we made contact with these 23 people in XYZ area, and they're OK. Not seeing signs that the numbers will go suddenly exponential. A week is a lot of time for out-of-town friends and relatives to panic and put out a welfare-check request. It will take a long time to get a complete tally, just because... mud, wreckage, and currents will make it hard to find them all. But as contact gets re-established, it'll get more accurate.
There’s no power still where my mother lives. My sister has no water. A friend of the family who left to stay in Charlotte told us that the water company called her and said there would be no water for possibly MONTHS in some areas of Asheville because the water came through Swannanoa and the infrastructure was *completely* destroyed. So the truth - as usual - is somewhere in the middle of Pollyanna-everything-is-great-because-the-party-I-like-is-in-office and everything-is-Hell-because-the-party-I-hate-is-in-office.
Months with no running water is completely insane. Third world shit. I hope your family gets through it.
I grew up in Western NC, and my 81 year old mother is still there and had to ride out the storm alone. She lost power and cell phone service but the house (on a hillside) survived with little damage. The ground was so saturated that 3" of water welled up into the basement. Many others were badly damaged, mostly from falling trees, and the houses lower down the hillside were flooded. Fortunately, the next door neighbors have a generator and satellite internet, and she was able to tell me she was OK, but the roads were washed out and there was no way out of town. She just got back cellular service last night, but needs to recharge the phone at the neighbors house. She said the road repair is going fairly quickly, and Mountain Electric told her two to three days to restore power once the roads reopen. There are people living on the Toe River and Squirrel Creek that would regularly get flooding during very heavy rains, even though the rest of the area didn't experience any. I would bet that they have been literally scoured from those small valleys or "hollers". These valleys are steep, so roads are quite literally wagon trails that have been widened and paved, and are usually close to the riverbanks where the terrain is a little flatter.
Glad to know your mother got through it all okay.
Thanks. When the roads reopen my brothers and I are going to head up there for at least a week or so. There is a lot of work to do.
Godspeed.
https://odysee.com/@S2Underground:7/the-wire-priority-september-30%2C-2024:3
Reports on military chain of command preventing units close by from helping: CONFIRMED
I'm currently going through the backlog of their Wire reports.
BEWARE: S2Underground is suspected to be a false-flag US SOF outlet, however there's *no* actual evidence for this and they have generally been accurate, historically.
The military taking such a ridiculous time to respond is just insane. They should have deployed within hours, not a week.
Any senior commander showing too much initiative would be marked out as a potential hazard to his superiors in the chain of command.
A’s hire A’s; B’s hire C’s…
And that is what is like in the best of times. At the moment a public sprited commander would look like a potential Napoleon to the regime. They would freak out.
I asked Chris Bray about that on his Stack yesterday (Thursday), since he has a military background, and the issue is, they need orders to move out.
No orders, they stay put.
I don't know how it's done in the US - obviously - but it seems it would be the governor telling the commander he can get to work.
Correct. The military does not move without orders. That's called mutiny, and is crossing a very broad and very dangerous Rubicon.
We have a different system.
If assisting police in peace-keeping (which hasn't happened since the 1930s) then you'd need orders from the top (political).
But for disaster relief, it's enough that the local relief co-ordinator ask the nearest military base for assistance, no politicians involved (in some cases, for a politician to stick their nose in such matters would be illegal).
It all dates back to ancient military tradition here, since there's always been so few of us: Man on the spot is in charge and makes the call, is the operating principle. That way, any one of any rank can do what he thinks is appropriate without fearing legal persecution later (provided the action is itself legal, of course).
There is a Substack author CoronaLisa who was directly affected. She has posted a few Notes. If you’re looking for answers, maybe she could provide some. I believe she’s near Chimney Rock, one of the hard hit areas.
Additional confirmation: https://odysee.com/@S2Underground:7/the-wire-october-2%2C-2024:c
EDIT: they also link the port worker's strike with logistics problems in US South East, in the Wire for 2024-10-03
Port strike is already over, no?
It's over, but it went on for three days. And it exacerbated the logistical problems in the US South East.
Three days is definitely long enough to snarl the supply chains.
Until January 15
Additional confirmation: https://www.zerohedge.com/technology/spacex-engineer-north-carolina-has-dire-warning-biden-harris-fema-actively-blocking
I don't know what crawled up ZH's ass, after JC posted his thing, ZH posted TWO articles of their own regarding North Carolina. o.O
Clearly, someone there reads me 😏
This is precisely the same point I’ve been making.
It’s not that there are people who believe that their government is working against them, they’re actively witnessing it.
It was once thought that anyone who questioned the government was a “conspiracy theorist” but now it’s the other way around.
Now we have “coincidence theorists” running around trying to explain away deliberate actions [of government officials] that have resulted in easily predictable bad outcomes.
The time for questioning the intention of those who are stopping things from working is over.
It’s like tinkering with something that is already not working -- it’s already not working, what danger is there in trying to fix it yourself?
This is where many in NC are right now. The government is not working, so people are finding a way to help each other, and themselves. This is how the future will likely play out. Government will be taking much less of a role in peoples' everyday lives.
Another way to look at this -- what would happen if there was a serious attack on US soil? Could the government even deal with it? Apparently not.
Given what's been happening at the border, arguably the government is attacking America.