Great comment. So it's not just me - I'm not imagining things. Thing is though, even the people who aren't fat often look weird, not just malnourished but twisted off of true, somehow. It really is some kind of Lovecraftian body horror. The goblinization of human beings into shoggoths. Reminiscent of the island in Pinocchio, where the bo…
Great comment. So it's not just me - I'm not imagining things. Thing is though, even the people who aren't fat often look weird, not just malnourished but twisted off of true, somehow.
It really is some kind of Lovecraftian body horror. The goblinization of human beings into shoggoths. Reminiscent of the island in Pinocchio, where the boys gradually turn into donkeys, step by gradual step without their ever realizing it, all because they allow themselves to be led around by their untrained appetites and lack the discernment to perceive the dark motivations of those encouraging them in this self-degradation.
It feels like we're speciating. Most of us becoming abominations, some few moving in the opposite direction. It's downright offensive that they're allowed to vote, and yes, so long as that continues we're certainly not voting our way out of this.
One note, it's the polyunsaturated fatty acids that are the real toxin. That's the rancid shit in canola oil. Saturated fats, as in bacon, butter, olive oil, are fantastically good for you.
Regarding polyunsaturated fats: close but no cigar.
The real issue is biological fats that our enzymes can slice, vs. synthetic fats that our bodies cannot deal with properly.
Delicate polyunsaturated fats BECOME varnish when exposed to high heat. I read this in Science Digest in the junior high school library back when Gerald Ford was President. Our bodies struggle to deal with varnish -- or original Crisco, or old school margarines.
Here's a simple test: if you go to a restaurant and find that you have a greasy mouth feel that won't go away, the odds are good that you have either eaten either partially hydrogenated fats or cross-linked fats (varnish). Soybean oil in a jar of mayonnaise is NOT the same thing as soybean oil that has been sitting in a deep fat fryer for a week, or soybean oil squirted on a 500 degree griddle.
You can eat tallow, coconut oil, butter, soybean oil, walnuts, flax seeds, sardines, olives, etc. without a lingering greasy mouth feel. Your body can deal with these fats. (There may be good reasons for a particular balance of these fats. Too much polyunsaturated oil can go rancid within the body as well, but nowhere near as fast as it goes bad at high temperatures.)
When I was young I used to eat a lot of baked goods which used partially hydrogenated oils. Store bought cookies and Pop 'n Fresh dough were my vices. I used to get terrible boils and had a phlegmy throat as well as run terribly high fevers when sick. Once I learned about trans fats and eliminated anything with partially hydrogenated oils, by skin got better and my fevers when getting sick were much lower. And my throat was clear.
But some of these symptoms often return when I go out to eat. Even though the government has clamped down on poisoning people with partially hydrogenated oils (which I think is an example of government doing the right thing for a change), when a restaurant cooks using delicate oils at high temperatures, bad oils are being produced on the spot.
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Regarding ugly people: I noticed quite some years ago -- after being on a low trans fat diet for a long time -- that people who ate a lot of margarine had what I internally thought of as "frog fat." That is, their subcutaneous fat was particularly soft, and not in a pleasant way.
Whereas the government has limited the intentionally generated non biologic fat in processed foods, the government has not set good standards for deep fat fried factory foods, or griddle fried foods in restaurants.
And something else has joined the toxic mix in the interim. I suspect it's too many foods cooked in plastic vessels. Microwave ovens were still exotic when I was young. I never used one until I was at least 20. And it took longer than that for microwave dinners to replace foil packed TV dinners as food for lazy cooks.
Then again, I also don't recall seeing No Till farming until after getting my first college degree. It was around earlier, but it wasn't the norm yet. No Till means more herbicides.
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The number of chemical changes is huge. Rolling the clock back completely would cost trillions.
But I would definitely start with avoiding varnish and food cooked in plastic..
And I can say from experience that people who shop in the more expensive grocery stores look different from those who shop in the cheaper grocery stores. Show me a grocery cart filled with sausage, American cheese, microwave dinners, deep fried crunchies, Texas toast, and Mountain Dew, and I'll show you a very ugly person pushing the cart.
I see what you mean - I guess I notice it more in the grotesquely obese but you're not wrong. I notice a lot of disproportionate features. Maybe it has something to do with being chronically malnourished or some sort of endocrine deficiency, but I see people who are tall and thin but with long, narrow middles and short limbs, and vice versa. I especially notice a crisis of hair in men in my age cohort - I can't think of a single millennial male who's hit 25 and hasn't started to either thin, recede, or just go outright bald. I noticed in my own life around the start of the pandemic and, fortunately, supplements, switching to homemade shampoo, and reducing stress has reversed some of it, but it's shocking how just how bad it is. I've been going to a nearby game store to play tabletop games with a friend, and I see a lot of young men who are five to ten years younger than me and, between their thinning hair, bad skin, and stooped, hunched postures, they look far older than I do - and I'm already gray at the temples and increasingly so everywhere else (thankfully, this is demonstrably genetic, also I don't really care what color my hair is so long as I have it). Like, I really do not say this to pick on anyone, I'm just making observations.
Not to get overly esoteric and schizo but part of me also believes part of that is negative energies, traits, juju, whatever you want to call it expressing in a physical way. Not to say that everyone who isn't Adonic in their looks is outright evil, but ever since I was a kid I was able to pick out untrustworthy and unreliable individuals just from their features and body language. Obviously, vices like sloth and gluttony are going to have some very noticeable physical effects on a person that manifest much more obliquely, but I greed, deceit, envy, rage, even chronic stress and depression - I think the chemical changes they bring about in the brain have some effect on you and can absolutely change your features. Corruption of the soul manifests in a corruption of the body, I'd assume, but that's a whole other matter entirely.
The Pinocchio metaphor is apt. The worst part is so, so many of these people don't even know they're donkeys, even when the transformation is complete. When I first started going down these rabbit holes and trying to explain what I was finding to others and many weren't receptive, and some vehemently denied it. I can't tell you how many times I heard, "Well, they wouldn't be able to sell us actual poison", and their justification was always either, "The government would do something and they'd get sued" or "They wouldn't harm their consumers because then who would buy their product". I don't need to explain to anyone here why that is naivety of the highest degree, but it's maddening all the same. I can't tell if they know and they won't accept it because a comfortable lie is preferable to a hard truth, or if they're truly so ignorant they can't wrap their heads around the fact that - *gasp* - corporations actually don't have their best interests in mind (I'd say they actually actively hate their consumer bases, but I'm not sure malice is a thing that can be ascribed to an incorporeal economic egregore). Either way, I have a feeling that it's something of both, depending on the individual, and ultimately, it doesn't even matter. These people don't even know what they don't know, and when they struggle so hard to keep the blinders over their eyes, I have difficulty feeling compassion for them, even though I know that's probably what they need more than anything. Except for maybe a hard kick in the ass.
And that was my mistake about the different types of fats - I get the two terms mixed up a lot. I generally just avoid anything that isn't butter, animal fats, olive oil, and avocado oil when it comes to cooking or what I put in my food. Needless to say I ended up putting so much stuff back on the shelf that I stopped trying to find pre-made sauces, marinades, what have you and just learned to make my own that didn't have canola or soybean oil. I'm so on the olive oil train I take a spoonful of it alone every day for the anti-inflammatory properties - and yes, I make sure to get the good stuff, 100% pure, uncut, and fresh from reliable sources.
A while back I decided I wanted some mayo to make ham sandwiches. Went through the entire shelf and nothing but soybean oil, until I found one tiny jar of avocado oil mayo.
It's just toxins everywhere.
And yeah, most of the population don't even notice.
Glad you've got your good fat and oil list sorted out. I'd consider adding Coconut and clean Palm oils. I pop my popcorn in expeller pressed organic Coconut oil, for example. Then I apply the butter!
Great comment. So it's not just me - I'm not imagining things. Thing is though, even the people who aren't fat often look weird, not just malnourished but twisted off of true, somehow.
It really is some kind of Lovecraftian body horror. The goblinization of human beings into shoggoths. Reminiscent of the island in Pinocchio, where the boys gradually turn into donkeys, step by gradual step without their ever realizing it, all because they allow themselves to be led around by their untrained appetites and lack the discernment to perceive the dark motivations of those encouraging them in this self-degradation.
It feels like we're speciating. Most of us becoming abominations, some few moving in the opposite direction. It's downright offensive that they're allowed to vote, and yes, so long as that continues we're certainly not voting our way out of this.
One note, it's the polyunsaturated fatty acids that are the real toxin. That's the rancid shit in canola oil. Saturated fats, as in bacon, butter, olive oil, are fantastically good for you.
Regarding polyunsaturated fats: close but no cigar.
The real issue is biological fats that our enzymes can slice, vs. synthetic fats that our bodies cannot deal with properly.
Delicate polyunsaturated fats BECOME varnish when exposed to high heat. I read this in Science Digest in the junior high school library back when Gerald Ford was President. Our bodies struggle to deal with varnish -- or original Crisco, or old school margarines.
Here's a simple test: if you go to a restaurant and find that you have a greasy mouth feel that won't go away, the odds are good that you have either eaten either partially hydrogenated fats or cross-linked fats (varnish). Soybean oil in a jar of mayonnaise is NOT the same thing as soybean oil that has been sitting in a deep fat fryer for a week, or soybean oil squirted on a 500 degree griddle.
You can eat tallow, coconut oil, butter, soybean oil, walnuts, flax seeds, sardines, olives, etc. without a lingering greasy mouth feel. Your body can deal with these fats. (There may be good reasons for a particular balance of these fats. Too much polyunsaturated oil can go rancid within the body as well, but nowhere near as fast as it goes bad at high temperatures.)
When I was young I used to eat a lot of baked goods which used partially hydrogenated oils. Store bought cookies and Pop 'n Fresh dough were my vices. I used to get terrible boils and had a phlegmy throat as well as run terribly high fevers when sick. Once I learned about trans fats and eliminated anything with partially hydrogenated oils, by skin got better and my fevers when getting sick were much lower. And my throat was clear.
But some of these symptoms often return when I go out to eat. Even though the government has clamped down on poisoning people with partially hydrogenated oils (which I think is an example of government doing the right thing for a change), when a restaurant cooks using delicate oils at high temperatures, bad oils are being produced on the spot.
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Regarding ugly people: I noticed quite some years ago -- after being on a low trans fat diet for a long time -- that people who ate a lot of margarine had what I internally thought of as "frog fat." That is, their subcutaneous fat was particularly soft, and not in a pleasant way.
Whereas the government has limited the intentionally generated non biologic fat in processed foods, the government has not set good standards for deep fat fried factory foods, or griddle fried foods in restaurants.
And something else has joined the toxic mix in the interim. I suspect it's too many foods cooked in plastic vessels. Microwave ovens were still exotic when I was young. I never used one until I was at least 20. And it took longer than that for microwave dinners to replace foil packed TV dinners as food for lazy cooks.
Then again, I also don't recall seeing No Till farming until after getting my first college degree. It was around earlier, but it wasn't the norm yet. No Till means more herbicides.
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The number of chemical changes is huge. Rolling the clock back completely would cost trillions.
But I would definitely start with avoiding varnish and food cooked in plastic..
And I can say from experience that people who shop in the more expensive grocery stores look different from those who shop in the cheaper grocery stores. Show me a grocery cart filled with sausage, American cheese, microwave dinners, deep fried crunchies, Texas toast, and Mountain Dew, and I'll show you a very ugly person pushing the cart.
I see what you mean - I guess I notice it more in the grotesquely obese but you're not wrong. I notice a lot of disproportionate features. Maybe it has something to do with being chronically malnourished or some sort of endocrine deficiency, but I see people who are tall and thin but with long, narrow middles and short limbs, and vice versa. I especially notice a crisis of hair in men in my age cohort - I can't think of a single millennial male who's hit 25 and hasn't started to either thin, recede, or just go outright bald. I noticed in my own life around the start of the pandemic and, fortunately, supplements, switching to homemade shampoo, and reducing stress has reversed some of it, but it's shocking how just how bad it is. I've been going to a nearby game store to play tabletop games with a friend, and I see a lot of young men who are five to ten years younger than me and, between their thinning hair, bad skin, and stooped, hunched postures, they look far older than I do - and I'm already gray at the temples and increasingly so everywhere else (thankfully, this is demonstrably genetic, also I don't really care what color my hair is so long as I have it). Like, I really do not say this to pick on anyone, I'm just making observations.
Not to get overly esoteric and schizo but part of me also believes part of that is negative energies, traits, juju, whatever you want to call it expressing in a physical way. Not to say that everyone who isn't Adonic in their looks is outright evil, but ever since I was a kid I was able to pick out untrustworthy and unreliable individuals just from their features and body language. Obviously, vices like sloth and gluttony are going to have some very noticeable physical effects on a person that manifest much more obliquely, but I greed, deceit, envy, rage, even chronic stress and depression - I think the chemical changes they bring about in the brain have some effect on you and can absolutely change your features. Corruption of the soul manifests in a corruption of the body, I'd assume, but that's a whole other matter entirely.
The Pinocchio metaphor is apt. The worst part is so, so many of these people don't even know they're donkeys, even when the transformation is complete. When I first started going down these rabbit holes and trying to explain what I was finding to others and many weren't receptive, and some vehemently denied it. I can't tell you how many times I heard, "Well, they wouldn't be able to sell us actual poison", and their justification was always either, "The government would do something and they'd get sued" or "They wouldn't harm their consumers because then who would buy their product". I don't need to explain to anyone here why that is naivety of the highest degree, but it's maddening all the same. I can't tell if they know and they won't accept it because a comfortable lie is preferable to a hard truth, or if they're truly so ignorant they can't wrap their heads around the fact that - *gasp* - corporations actually don't have their best interests in mind (I'd say they actually actively hate their consumer bases, but I'm not sure malice is a thing that can be ascribed to an incorporeal economic egregore). Either way, I have a feeling that it's something of both, depending on the individual, and ultimately, it doesn't even matter. These people don't even know what they don't know, and when they struggle so hard to keep the blinders over their eyes, I have difficulty feeling compassion for them, even though I know that's probably what they need more than anything. Except for maybe a hard kick in the ass.
And that was my mistake about the different types of fats - I get the two terms mixed up a lot. I generally just avoid anything that isn't butter, animal fats, olive oil, and avocado oil when it comes to cooking or what I put in my food. Needless to say I ended up putting so much stuff back on the shelf that I stopped trying to find pre-made sauces, marinades, what have you and just learned to make my own that didn't have canola or soybean oil. I'm so on the olive oil train I take a spoonful of it alone every day for the anti-inflammatory properties - and yes, I make sure to get the good stuff, 100% pure, uncut, and fresh from reliable sources.
A while back I decided I wanted some mayo to make ham sandwiches. Went through the entire shelf and nothing but soybean oil, until I found one tiny jar of avocado oil mayo.
It's just toxins everywhere.
And yeah, most of the population don't even notice.
Glad you've got your good fat and oil list sorted out. I'd consider adding Coconut and clean Palm oils. I pop my popcorn in expeller pressed organic Coconut oil, for example. Then I apply the butter!