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Kratoklastes's avatar

Where this sort of idea falls down, is that the Mass Man is an imbecile who has no interest whatsoever in epistemology, and no interest whatsoever in working out what's actually causing the shadows on the wall of the Cave.

For the Mass Man, 'the news' is just a thing that a vaguely-fuckable bleached-teeth dyed blonde reads off an autocue: it's entertainment, not information. It's designed to reinforce a specific weltanschauung - that the best use of a person's time is to participate in the Ant Farm, having half one's productivity transferred upwards to a clique of megalomaniacal sociopaths.

The Ancients understood this (after a fashion) with the strong distinction between _doxa_ and _epistēmē_ ... with doxa being the retarded red-headed stepchild of the cognitive family tree, and (sadly) being where the vast majority of people spend their intellectual lives. (One of the things that makes doxa easy, is that there is no *veridicality requirement*: there is no logical violation involved in believing a thing that is known not to be true).

Epistēmē is a slightly unnatural objective, because it requires an inherent mistrust of one's lyin' eyes (and senses generally) while still relying on the senses to eventually work out where the lies are. It is entirely predicated on a desire to move from belief to knowledge.

Askēsis - [the] discipline/practice/exercise that helps get there - is a process for which the VAST majority of human beings are simply not equipped, but it is the sine qua non for any attempt to live a fact-based life.

It is not enough to say "This is a human. Humans invented all this cool shit, so this one must be equally-capable with the ones who did the inventing... or at least within acceptably-small-δ" - because for an arbitrarily selected individual it's demonstrably, objectively not true.

Prediction-market-based reputation pricing is like the old saw about academic tenure (those who deserve it don't need it; those who need it don't deserve it) - amended such that those who are cognitively capable of navigating such a system, have other, better ways to inform themselves than 'hot takes' on YouTwitFace (a nifty term I stole - a composite of YouTube, Twitter and Facebook).

HOI PLEISTOI ANTHROPOI KAKOI. Most people are shit... so it's no surprise that groupwise they produce cacophony ("shit noise").

Kakoi and kakkao are etymologically related, so if you ever see 'cac-' (or "kak-") as a prefix, just replace it with 'shit[ty]' and you'll not be far from the mark... e.g., kakistocracy - rule by shit.

I met a girl called Alithea once, in a bar. She lied about her age.

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I like that idea. It would be nice to see Substack set up a similar sort of market for tracking purposes, though that is probably too far afield from their mission.

The only real concern I have is the resolution of prediction markets. Too often they rely on "official" sources to declare wins/losses, which means using them to cut through official propaganda can be a real problem. If there is a market about whether or not China stays below 100,000 COVID deaths by 2023, and China says "Nope, no more deaths here, still at 5k!" that tells you nothing about how well someone judges and predicts reality. I don't really know how you get around that issue, but it worries me a good bit.

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