Hey, John, thanks for the citation/shout-out, I really appreciate it and really appreciate that we can all educate, inspire and entertain each other here and elsewhere, in our little samizdat corner of the world.
I personally root the Marxcissists in 1960s California, more specifically a very swank place called the Esalen Institute, where various aspiring gurus (political and spiritual) helped create the New Left. This is where the delicate operation was made that excised the proletariat from their Messiah status and transformed "the redistribution of wealth" into the "redistribution of self-esteem". Once the proles had proved immune to the charms of the Vanguard class, Leftism became a luxury good designed to meet the spiritual, psychological and personal needs of the young, bourgeois and disaffected. I think this is where "The Personal is Political" went from slogan to cult to belief system for upscale liberals (especially women) and also where the state of California got the inspiration to create the world's first official Dept. of Self-Esteem (it may have also hosted the world's first "Diversity" seminar).
If so much of the 20th century's destruction was rooted in 19th-century German thought, so much of our 21st-century stupidity, self-absorption, and Personality Disorder Politics are rooted in 20th-century California.
Hopefully the Marxcissists can be tamed by granting their wish and holding up a mirror to their faces, and hopefully somehow they can see how ugly and hateful they've become.
Has anyone else noticed there's a LOT of people that spend most of their time on the internet talking about narcissists? It's a REALLY popular topic to play armchair clinician and exchange stories of unpleasant interactions out in the world and dissect what aspects of narcissism were manifesting in the obvious narcissist that was the source of the unpleasant interaction.
There's even an informal credentialism in this where people describe themselves as "experts" or deeply experienced with narcissists; invariably this seems to be because one has had a long stream of usually boyfriends or husbands that were all, mysteriously, pathological narcissists.
Since White Christians seem to be the most hated group on the planet these days, and one quoting The Bible (gasp) is even worse, I realize I'm taking my chances. Regardless, there's nothing new under the sun. Or would it help if I began with a few Shakespeare quotations?
"O' What may man within him hide, though angel on the outward side!"
"Few love to hear the sins they love to act."
"God has given you one face, and you make yourself another."
Matthew 6 NKJV
“Take heed that you do not do your charitable deeds before men, to be seen by them...
when you do a charitable deed, do not sound a trumpet before you as the hypocrites do..."
Like, don't post it on Twitter and Facebook to display how righteous you are, because you're only proving the opposite.
Or, to quote John Carter:
"the incentive structures of social media incentivize and manufacture narcissists."
"... it's just a pose, a costume they put on for public consumption."
Matt 6 NKJV
“Do not give what is holy to the dogs; nor cast your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you in pieces.
Truth hurts. It's supposed to. It sure pissed off the Pharisees when Jesus spoke it.
“Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you are like whitewashed tombs which indeed appear beautiful outwardly, but inside are full of dead men’s bones and all uncleanness."
Carter: "... it's just a pose, a costume they put on for public consumption."
Jesus exposed their hypocrisy and they crucified him. The truth (pearls) does tend to elicit extreme reactions, like being torn to pieces, as quoted above.
So there you have it. Shakespreare, Jesus and John Carter. Great minds thinking alike and all.
"In which case, they’re usually narcissistic anyhow, practically by comorbid definition. ‘Catty, emotionally insecure fairy’ is a stereotype for a reason."
"If homosexuals weren't such jerks, 'fag' wouldn't be an insult." -- Jack Donovan (by memory)
As a member in good standing of the Dark Triad Libertarians, narcissicist has it's own cachet. It has a devil may care coolness worthy of Joe Camel.
I prefer Whinocrats.
There is nothing, absolutely nothing, noble or virtuous in being a whiner. A whiner is both selfish AND pathetic AND ineffective. Slaves and little kids whine. Getting a degree in Intersectionality is just getting new excuses to whine.
Teaching once-oppressed minorities to be narcissistic is to compensate them from the days where it was dangerous for a negro to say No to a white man. (It wasn't that long ago, BTW.) Teaching once-oppressed minorities to whine harder, on the other hand, is simply deepening the slave mentality.
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My other favored appellation is Puritanical satanist. This one is small beer for the young, but for older Leftists "puritanical" is poison. I'm old enough to remember diligent leftists who read John Stuart Mill and claimed to like it. These people mocked the Right for McCarthy and the Salem Witch Trials. Well, today's Left is just as bad as the witch hunters and commie hunters of old. (With the big difference that McCarthy was actually onto something...)
As for satanist, notice the small s. They aren't explicitly worshiping an anti Christian supernatural entity. They are merely reflexively anti all things Christian. Note how they overlook Moslems and others when they call out misogyny . St. Paul was a radical feminist compared to the pagans of his day or Islam today.
Finally, Marsicist is hard to pronouce.
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With all this written, feel free to test drive Marxicist and prove me wrong. I will humbly do an "I'm not worthy!" bow if ti works.
Feb 3, 2023·edited Feb 3, 2023Liked by John Carter
💬 when you possess the True Name of a dark spirit, you own the fucker + 💬 The labels were then appropriated by dissidents, at which point the egregore started distancing itself from them + 💬 Pepperidge Farm remembers
Curtis Yarvin from (s)lightly different angle ↓↓
🗨 Power hates to be named. Power has to stay ahead of its enemies. These labels evolve as private, informal codewords among cool insiders; are discovered by their enemies; and are abandoned by the insiders, who change their codes—then start to insist that they never used those codes in the first place. Power does not exist. But its memory can be hard to delete.
Feb 3, 2023·edited Feb 3, 2023Liked by John Carter
Describing the psychic effects of a rapidly evolving mental health crisis on a civilizational scale is ambitious. You definitely are on the right track. Political battle requires destabilising the enemy. Identifying their raw nerves for target practice is essential (and fun).
My only qualm about Marxcissist is that by incorporating Marx it affixes the problem to 19th c. ideology. What we are seeing draws on the experience of Leninism, Trotskyism and Maoism but mostly grows out of very indigenous, non-Marxist, sources, above all race and gender relations in a thoroughly capitalist context and the neurocognitive decline induced by social media addiction couple with drug abuse. I get the impression that the North American right is way more comfortable with discussing Marxism than it is with race or class. Since this involves people discussing books that they usually have not read the standard of ideation is inevitably dismal.
And, frankly, given the condition of the SJWs etc, I feel nostalgic for the Reds of the past, quite a few of whom deserved respect at a personal level regardless of the nature of their beliefs. The Young Pioneers (or Putin's Young Army movement now) look like gods compared to the blue-haired misfits and rejects of the West. To see what I mean check out this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWtLuZQn6_8
As for narcisism, my understanding (which may be wrong) is that the condition is not about ego inflation, but trouble making subject/object distinctions. Since the SJWs make everything about themselves this is perhaps me being grossly pedantic.
My guess is that the eventual takedown word will involve an association with status...nothing produces an adrenal effect faster than intimations of changing relativities of status. We are apes that live in groups. Zoön politikon (political animal or social animal). Status determines who eats and who mates. The woke are tormented by two things: the erasure of individuality in a homogenised world where identities are plastic (and transparently derived from the infotainment industry) resulting in chronic uncertainty and feelings of inauthenticity and the experience of material frustration/downward social mobility (or the fear of it) hence the desperation to claw a position in an uncertain world.
The attraction of woke for the BIPOCs is simply collecting the rent from whitey one way or another and the thrill of seeing rivals degraded and humiliated. With the white wokes it is status or perceptions of a delusionary status as a prop to the ego.
Feb 3, 2023·edited Feb 3, 2023Liked by John Carter
⚠️ Scam alert! 📢 SOS!!
🗨 I bring you good tidings / Let’s converse ㈩𝟏𝟕𝟖𝟔𝟔𝟑𝟐𝟑𝟓𝟐𝟕
↑↑ goes in many a stack comments, purportedly from authors but *no*! Avatar pics & names hard to differentiate at first glance (though of course without author's mark and orange tick where applicable) 🤦
Care to announce loud to Deimos publisher crowd? I wonder how long until Barsoom's top-form
“SJW has largely fallen out of use…” Leftists always reject the names that they apply to themselves. “Liberal, socialist, progressive…” at some point leftists renounced them all and demanded that they be called something else. Maybe it’s because their labels for themselves become associated with their Marxcissist ideas, which are nonsense and untruths (as I discuss in “Leftist Untruths”).
Narcissists maintain the perfect self image to compensate for their total lack of self-esteem. That is, the don't feel any sense of self worth. Therefore they try to create a persona which will have worth, and victim Olympics works very well. It's just perfect for them so they can immediately and on the cheap become double plus good persons, by attributes although not in essentia.
This lack of essence, ie dasein, or väsen, is the same thing as lacking spirit and ultimately capacity for love. Which means, they hate.
If you don't love yourself, you hate the world, so they are haters, and self haters.
This is also why they hate Christians with such venom, because they are in total rejection of truth, beauty and love. But I digress in my Platonic underpinnings...
Just ask them "why don't you love yourself? Why treat yourself with such little respect? It's undignified.
If you want to go for the kill, kill them with kindness and aim for the heart.
"If so much of the 20th century's destruction was rooted in 19th-century German thought, so much of our 21st-century stupidity, self-absorption, and Personality Disorder Politics are rooted in 20th-century California."
Bernardo Kastrup, in his Decoding Schopenhauer's Metaphysics, mentions what a disaster it was that Hegel rather than Schop triumphed in German philosophy. He means that Schop's idealism would have provided a better metaphysics, compatible with quantum mechanics, than scientific materialism, and I suspect he is a total shitlib himself (he's written an "open letter" to Putin demanding he resign and let Biden bring muh democracy to Russia, literally) but I would adopt that idea and adapt it along your lines. Without Hegel, pompous bullshit would not pass for super-knowledge in Germany; no Marx, no Nietzsche (a clear writer but simply obsessed with reversing all of Schop's ideas); thus no Communism or Fascism to duke it out in the 20th century. Also no Heidegger, although he's a bit sui generis anyway (and on record as "loathing" Schopenhauer). Heidegger is a classic narcissist, btw, writing 100 volumes to bring "the message of Beying" (sic) to a fallen world, etc. Carl Jung privately said he was clearly a schizo and a graphomaniac.
Anyway, before California there was Frankfurt. If you read Grand Hotel Abyss, you can see that the Frankfurters were the original Marxcissists. They were from rich Jewish families, whose money enabled their fine classical German educations, but they were ashamed of their uncool, merchant parents and became "Marxists" to piss them off. Hence the need to "reimagine" Marxism as having nothing to do with revolution or workers, but a dreamy state of mind where you imagine Utopia (but never try to actually do anything about it). Horkheimer, the head of the school, spend his whole career caging grants etc. to keep things afloat, which required him to spend his time stamping out any hints of revolutionary action, which would scare off the rich donors. Towards the end of his life he abandoned the whole thing and just wrote about his real hero: Schopenhauer.
Hell yeah! "Marxcissists." Now if they were Groucho Marxcissists and at least had a sense of humor about things, that would be one thing, but it's "communist manifesto" except that the pampered bourgeoise have swapped places with the proletariat. "Geez, this communism thing hasn't worked out too well -- in fact, it's even been one of the leading causes of death during the last century . . . Hey, I know, let's just get rid of all this 'concern for the working class' nonsense and make it all about my pronouns and my sex life and forcing everyone to pay attention to ME and celebrate MY self-identity on pain of CANCELLATION!!!"
Wrt no-editing experiment. Disclaimer: just for laughs!
💬 I’ve been looking for an Atomic Word with which to nuke this hateful egregore from orbit for years now.
Cf: 🗨 One morning I shot an elephant in my pajamas. (*)
To be fair, it’s more of a weak garden-path sentence (the final now ruins the illusion), but the association sprang to mind, and feels too funny not to share 🤸
Hey, John, thanks for the citation/shout-out, I really appreciate it and really appreciate that we can all educate, inspire and entertain each other here and elsewhere, in our little samizdat corner of the world.
I personally root the Marxcissists in 1960s California, more specifically a very swank place called the Esalen Institute, where various aspiring gurus (political and spiritual) helped create the New Left. This is where the delicate operation was made that excised the proletariat from their Messiah status and transformed "the redistribution of wealth" into the "redistribution of self-esteem". Once the proles had proved immune to the charms of the Vanguard class, Leftism became a luxury good designed to meet the spiritual, psychological and personal needs of the young, bourgeois and disaffected. I think this is where "The Personal is Political" went from slogan to cult to belief system for upscale liberals (especially women) and also where the state of California got the inspiration to create the world's first official Dept. of Self-Esteem (it may have also hosted the world's first "Diversity" seminar).
If so much of the 20th century's destruction was rooted in 19th-century German thought, so much of our 21st-century stupidity, self-absorption, and Personality Disorder Politics are rooted in 20th-century California.
Hopefully the Marxcissists can be tamed by granting their wish and holding up a mirror to their faces, and hopefully somehow they can see how ugly and hateful they've become.
Cheers!
Has anyone else noticed there's a LOT of people that spend most of their time on the internet talking about narcissists? It's a REALLY popular topic to play armchair clinician and exchange stories of unpleasant interactions out in the world and dissect what aspects of narcissism were manifesting in the obvious narcissist that was the source of the unpleasant interaction.
There's even an informal credentialism in this where people describe themselves as "experts" or deeply experienced with narcissists; invariably this seems to be because one has had a long stream of usually boyfriends or husbands that were all, mysteriously, pathological narcissists.
"Blue Cheka." LOL.
Since White Christians seem to be the most hated group on the planet these days, and one quoting The Bible (gasp) is even worse, I realize I'm taking my chances. Regardless, there's nothing new under the sun. Or would it help if I began with a few Shakespeare quotations?
"O' What may man within him hide, though angel on the outward side!"
"Few love to hear the sins they love to act."
"God has given you one face, and you make yourself another."
Matthew 6 NKJV
“Take heed that you do not do your charitable deeds before men, to be seen by them...
when you do a charitable deed, do not sound a trumpet before you as the hypocrites do..."
Like, don't post it on Twitter and Facebook to display how righteous you are, because you're only proving the opposite.
Or, to quote John Carter:
"the incentive structures of social media incentivize and manufacture narcissists."
"... it's just a pose, a costume they put on for public consumption."
Matt 6 NKJV
“Do not give what is holy to the dogs; nor cast your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you in pieces.
Truth hurts. It's supposed to. It sure pissed off the Pharisees when Jesus spoke it.
“Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you are like whitewashed tombs which indeed appear beautiful outwardly, but inside are full of dead men’s bones and all uncleanness."
Carter: "... it's just a pose, a costume they put on for public consumption."
Jesus exposed their hypocrisy and they crucified him. The truth (pearls) does tend to elicit extreme reactions, like being torn to pieces, as quoted above.
So there you have it. Shakespreare, Jesus and John Carter. Great minds thinking alike and all.
"In which case, they’re usually narcissistic anyhow, practically by comorbid definition. ‘Catty, emotionally insecure fairy’ is a stereotype for a reason."
"If homosexuals weren't such jerks, 'fag' wouldn't be an insult." -- Jack Donovan (by memory)
Not evil enough. Indeed, the Diet Coke of Evil.
As a member in good standing of the Dark Triad Libertarians, narcissicist has it's own cachet. It has a devil may care coolness worthy of Joe Camel.
I prefer Whinocrats.
There is nothing, absolutely nothing, noble or virtuous in being a whiner. A whiner is both selfish AND pathetic AND ineffective. Slaves and little kids whine. Getting a degree in Intersectionality is just getting new excuses to whine.
Teaching once-oppressed minorities to be narcissistic is to compensate them from the days where it was dangerous for a negro to say No to a white man. (It wasn't that long ago, BTW.) Teaching once-oppressed minorities to whine harder, on the other hand, is simply deepening the slave mentality.
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My other favored appellation is Puritanical satanist. This one is small beer for the young, but for older Leftists "puritanical" is poison. I'm old enough to remember diligent leftists who read John Stuart Mill and claimed to like it. These people mocked the Right for McCarthy and the Salem Witch Trials. Well, today's Left is just as bad as the witch hunters and commie hunters of old. (With the big difference that McCarthy was actually onto something...)
As for satanist, notice the small s. They aren't explicitly worshiping an anti Christian supernatural entity. They are merely reflexively anti all things Christian. Note how they overlook Moslems and others when they call out misogyny . St. Paul was a radical feminist compared to the pagans of his day or Islam today.
Finally, Marsicist is hard to pronouce.
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With all this written, feel free to test drive Marxicist and prove me wrong. I will humbly do an "I'm not worthy!" bow if ti works.
💬 when you possess the True Name of a dark spirit, you own the fucker + 💬 The labels were then appropriated by dissidents, at which point the egregore started distancing itself from them + 💬 Pepperidge Farm remembers
Curtis Yarvin from (s)lightly different angle ↓↓
🗨 Power hates to be named. Power has to stay ahead of its enemies. These labels evolve as private, informal codewords among cool insiders; are discovered by their enemies; and are abandoned by the insiders, who change their codes—then start to insist that they never used those codes in the first place. Power does not exist. But its memory can be hard to delete.
Describing the psychic effects of a rapidly evolving mental health crisis on a civilizational scale is ambitious. You definitely are on the right track. Political battle requires destabilising the enemy. Identifying their raw nerves for target practice is essential (and fun).
My only qualm about Marxcissist is that by incorporating Marx it affixes the problem to 19th c. ideology. What we are seeing draws on the experience of Leninism, Trotskyism and Maoism but mostly grows out of very indigenous, non-Marxist, sources, above all race and gender relations in a thoroughly capitalist context and the neurocognitive decline induced by social media addiction couple with drug abuse. I get the impression that the North American right is way more comfortable with discussing Marxism than it is with race or class. Since this involves people discussing books that they usually have not read the standard of ideation is inevitably dismal.
And, frankly, given the condition of the SJWs etc, I feel nostalgic for the Reds of the past, quite a few of whom deserved respect at a personal level regardless of the nature of their beliefs. The Young Pioneers (or Putin's Young Army movement now) look like gods compared to the blue-haired misfits and rejects of the West. To see what I mean check out this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWtLuZQn6_8
As for narcisism, my understanding (which may be wrong) is that the condition is not about ego inflation, but trouble making subject/object distinctions. Since the SJWs make everything about themselves this is perhaps me being grossly pedantic.
My guess is that the eventual takedown word will involve an association with status...nothing produces an adrenal effect faster than intimations of changing relativities of status. We are apes that live in groups. Zoön politikon (political animal or social animal). Status determines who eats and who mates. The woke are tormented by two things: the erasure of individuality in a homogenised world where identities are plastic (and transparently derived from the infotainment industry) resulting in chronic uncertainty and feelings of inauthenticity and the experience of material frustration/downward social mobility (or the fear of it) hence the desperation to claw a position in an uncertain world.
The attraction of woke for the BIPOCs is simply collecting the rent from whitey one way or another and the thrill of seeing rivals degraded and humiliated. With the white wokes it is status or perceptions of a delusionary status as a prop to the ego.
⚠️ Scam alert! 📢 SOS!!
🗨 I bring you good tidings / Let’s converse ㈩𝟏𝟕𝟖𝟔𝟔𝟑𝟐𝟑𝟓𝟐𝟕
↑↑ goes in many a stack comments, purportedly from authors but *no*! Avatar pics & names hard to differentiate at first glance (though of course without author's mark and orange tick where applicable) 🤦
Care to announce loud to Deimos publisher crowd? I wonder how long until Barsoom's top-form
enfant terrible falls prey 😉
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(*) ei gato maio [sic] --> https://substack.com/profile/126928624-ei-gato-maio
(*) Good Citizen’s [sic] --> https://substack.com/profile/127084970-good-citizens
“SJW has largely fallen out of use…” Leftists always reject the names that they apply to themselves. “Liberal, socialist, progressive…” at some point leftists renounced them all and demanded that they be called something else. Maybe it’s because their labels for themselves become associated with their Marxcissist ideas, which are nonsense and untruths (as I discuss in “Leftist Untruths”).
You make this way to complicated.
Narcissists maintain the perfect self image to compensate for their total lack of self-esteem. That is, the don't feel any sense of self worth. Therefore they try to create a persona which will have worth, and victim Olympics works very well. It's just perfect for them so they can immediately and on the cheap become double plus good persons, by attributes although not in essentia.
This lack of essence, ie dasein, or väsen, is the same thing as lacking spirit and ultimately capacity for love. Which means, they hate.
If you don't love yourself, you hate the world, so they are haters, and self haters.
This is also why they hate Christians with such venom, because they are in total rejection of truth, beauty and love. But I digress in my Platonic underpinnings...
Just ask them "why don't you love yourself? Why treat yourself with such little respect? It's undignified.
If you want to go for the kill, kill them with kindness and aim for the heart.
"If so much of the 20th century's destruction was rooted in 19th-century German thought, so much of our 21st-century stupidity, self-absorption, and Personality Disorder Politics are rooted in 20th-century California."
Bernardo Kastrup, in his Decoding Schopenhauer's Metaphysics, mentions what a disaster it was that Hegel rather than Schop triumphed in German philosophy. He means that Schop's idealism would have provided a better metaphysics, compatible with quantum mechanics, than scientific materialism, and I suspect he is a total shitlib himself (he's written an "open letter" to Putin demanding he resign and let Biden bring muh democracy to Russia, literally) but I would adopt that idea and adapt it along your lines. Without Hegel, pompous bullshit would not pass for super-knowledge in Germany; no Marx, no Nietzsche (a clear writer but simply obsessed with reversing all of Schop's ideas); thus no Communism or Fascism to duke it out in the 20th century. Also no Heidegger, although he's a bit sui generis anyway (and on record as "loathing" Schopenhauer). Heidegger is a classic narcissist, btw, writing 100 volumes to bring "the message of Beying" (sic) to a fallen world, etc. Carl Jung privately said he was clearly a schizo and a graphomaniac.
Anyway, before California there was Frankfurt. If you read Grand Hotel Abyss, you can see that the Frankfurters were the original Marxcissists. They were from rich Jewish families, whose money enabled their fine classical German educations, but they were ashamed of their uncool, merchant parents and became "Marxists" to piss them off. Hence the need to "reimagine" Marxism as having nothing to do with revolution or workers, but a dreamy state of mind where you imagine Utopia (but never try to actually do anything about it). Horkheimer, the head of the school, spend his whole career caging grants etc. to keep things afloat, which required him to spend his time stamping out any hints of revolutionary action, which would scare off the rich donors. Towards the end of his life he abandoned the whole thing and just wrote about his real hero: Schopenhauer.
"Filth-bloods".
Or, "shit-bloods".
You need to go Germanic in your wording, Latin is too polysyllabic and lacks the brutality required.
Hell yeah! "Marxcissists." Now if they were Groucho Marxcissists and at least had a sense of humor about things, that would be one thing, but it's "communist manifesto" except that the pampered bourgeoise have swapped places with the proletariat. "Geez, this communism thing hasn't worked out too well -- in fact, it's even been one of the leading causes of death during the last century . . . Hey, I know, let's just get rid of all this 'concern for the working class' nonsense and make it all about my pronouns and my sex life and forcing everyone to pay attention to ME and celebrate MY self-identity on pain of CANCELLATION!!!"
Wrt no-editing experiment. Disclaimer: just for laughs!
💬 I’ve been looking for an Atomic Word with which to nuke this hateful egregore from orbit for years now.
Cf: 🗨 One morning I shot an elephant in my pajamas. (*)
To be fair, it’s more of a weak garden-path sentence (the final now ruins the illusion), but the association sprang to mind, and feels too funny not to share 🤸
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(*) How he got in my pajamas, I don't know.
Thinking about narcissism inevitably leads me to thinking about the story of narcissus in the prologue of the alchemist. Shoe still fits.