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Remember the good old days when people showed how much holier than thou they were by abstaining from anything fun and living in a hole somewhere? Maybe we could bring that back.

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Not so clear-cut as mostly everywhere in human affairs:

What about doing good for the selfish reason of feeling good? Or for the sake of living in happier community with its obvious benefits for yourself? Selfishness once removed, as it wereтАФis it still altruism? Or no-true-Scotsperson rears its/zer stubborn head here? ┬п\_(уГД)_/┬п

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That is still consistent with our points. Particularly the living in a happier community bit, as that is closer, more personal, and one has more of a stake in it.

Long range doing good is all about feeling better about one's self, and the problem is that the actual doing good part isn't too necessary. It is going through the motions, such that the "doing good" part isn't what makes you feel good, but the seeming like you are doing good. In other words, contrary to the making a better community which you benefit from, and if you fail to make a better community you do not get the benefit, the feeling good part of long range benevolence is largely untethered to actually doing good. Your good feels are not based on having done good in fact, but on having done good in theory.

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ЁЯТм Your good feels are not based on having done good in fact, but on having done good in theory.

Obviously. [Captain, the honorific address fits here somewhere ЁЯШЗ]

Yet in the eyes of the confused beholder it's a different story, ie your theory = zir lived reality ЁЯШЙ

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