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The solutions to all the problems we face is becoming stronger individually and as a group.
No matter the problem, the only way to solve it remains the same through time immemorial - men making themselves stronger, banding together with other strong men from their tribe, and trying to effect change.
We are so far gone that me even saying this immediately sends people from various political camps into a rage spiral. Women get mad because I say "men". Liberals get mad because I say "strong". Libertarians get made because I say "group". Communists get mad for me saying "tribe".
The one solution to any and all problems is roundly disparaged and rejected by all of the ideologoyim.
I enjoy how it is organized by topic. I wish I had time to read them all, might have to stick to Iron Ring Award Winners for now. Thanks for the curated list of what is no doubt excellent content.
May 20, 2023·edited May 20, 2023Liked by John Carter
You've done a man's work, sir. Of course, I'll have to ramp up my self-cloning project to read them all. Unfortunately, my CRISPr printers seem to be running low on ink; just the other day, I caught several homunculi scanning back issues of The Village Voice for affordable call girls.
On a side note: Bob Dole?
Are you sure you didn't mean Ross Perot, you hockey-lovin, poutine-eatin scoundrel?
May 20, 2023·edited May 20, 2023Liked by John Carter
I have fond memories of Perot from his self-funded, 15-minute TV spots: "Lookit this 'ere chart!" Even at that tender I age, I was like, "Fuck it. Let this crazy Foghorn Leghorn sonofabitch give it a shot."
Also, I grasp the overall purpose of these curated posts, even though I was too much of a paleofag/distracto-bot to have read "Social Matter." I will endeavor to read at least 5 per post, which will depend muchly on your salesmanship. No pressure.
Perot was way smarter than the blow-hard Buchanan and was the last chance the US had to avoid deindustrialisation. He was bullied out of politics by the Deep State to make way for the Clintons. The fix was in by then.
It's very interesting that Eisenstein works now for RFK. I am not sure whether RFK will have any chance in 2024 against the Establishment democrats but I will root for him. Regarding Eisenstein: his soft tone and his idealized Hippy-writing are very irritating for me. I can only endure it sporadically.
Yes, we are not his primary audience, at all, yet I think his ideas are quite essential to what comes next. I've been meaning to write about this ... to attempt to translate Eisenstein into Anon. And similarly, to translate BAP into hippy, perhaps ... I think there is far more in common between these groups than is usually recognized, in many ways what we want is compatible.
Hippy is Left Vitalism...BAP Right Vitalism. The common denominator is an aversion to managerial systems and the reduction of human life into fungible biomass being managed for profit. Socially the overlap is extraordinary. The key I suspect, to mediating between the two is to avoid sentiment and focus on fact/analysis and remain aloof from the ancient sectarian and legacy obsessions. No one wants to admit it, but the Frankfurt School (and Foucault) is in agreement with Heidegger and much of the reactionary right. The trouble with the Legacy Hippy Left is that the counter-culture cheerfully converged with the corporate system while the reactionaries have not yet figured out that they lost every political battle for centuries and most of their heroes were to blame for these losses.
Very good analysis, yes. There's also a masculine/feminine distinction - very few RWBBs among the hippies, for example (or even BBs, forget about the RW part). Similarly the hippies seem to have more than their share of women, while the men they do have are often quite soft ... although not always, those who involve themselves in regenerative agriculture, for example, often have some of their illusions stripped off, as is necessary for farmers.
And of course, you see this in the implicit spirituality of the two. The hippies from the beginning venerated the Earth Mother, as a conscious rejection of patriarchy; while the more recent RWBBs venerate Dyeus Phater, as a conscious rejection of the matriarchy. It seems to me that both are fundamentally incomplete - a marriage of the two, however....
RWBBs? Don't get the 'BB'. Maybe because it is late at night here.
An exchange of ideas is inevitable. Hippies are a mixed bunch. Kids raised by hippies are often super rw and are stone-cold realists. They'll eat trads for breakfast. The pressures for the exchange will not be ideational, but practical: the effects of law, finance, corporate and gov't interference...also considerations of personal and public safety arising from legal and illegal immigration and the deprioritisation of whites in general. As safety becomes an issue, even the earth mother bullshit artists wise-up and appreciate the value of protection from brute force. Hippies are naturally suspicious of transhumanism too. The thing about tribes (genuine ones) is that are familial networks that are effective at bonding because of a shared condition.
Thanks John! I’m glad you enjoyed my story. Actually having two convict-descended parents is very rare… and our families hid it! Extraordinary but true…
No! So - only a small amount are. The initial colony was very small, and there were also a fair proportion of them who were Army officers to guard the convicts. 37.7% of the population of Australia was convicts in 1837, but by 1847, only 3.2% were convicts. There was a massive demographic shift.
The main wave of Anglo-Celtic colonisation came with the Gold Rushes, not convicts. South Australia is all free settlers, Victoria was largely free settlers and Gold Rush, and so forth. I seem to have a particularly high proportion of convicts - eight or nine of them - mostly transported for petty theft, apart from the Irish rebel and the London prostitute who hit a non-paying client over the head with a jug. I can’t say I blame the latter. She had to stand on a chair to do it because she was so short, she had spirit. I have several Gold Rush ancestors too, as well as an Aboriginal ancestor, some Potato Famine refugees, and some cleared Highlanders: I’m a walking Australian stereotype. It’s seriously like something from Dickens: they all had really hard times, but did much better in Australia than back in the UK.
Yes, I think there is, and that that initial core of convicts/gaolers has had an outsized impact on the way colonial Australia developed. The other thing which has had a massive impact, in my view, is the very unforgiving climate: “droughts and flooding rains”. It means that one has to have a certain pragmatism.
Australia has a very strange culture, actually. Very different to either UK or the US. (1) We have a self image of being “larrikins” who challenge authority. (2) We are in fact, by and large, *extremely* rule-abiding and make up vast tracts of rules for ourselves. (3) The main way in which we are not rule-abiding is social rank and hierarchy - we hate people being above themselves, hence the so-called “tall-poppy syndrome” - cutting down people who we regard as “up themselves”. (4) Relatedly, it’s a very conformist society in many ways. I make these observations in part from living in the UK as an Australian for 6 years, and seeing my own country from afar. I love it, but I’m also aware of how very odd it is.
That's interesting. The similarities with Canada are quite strong - although we explicitly conceive of ourselves as rule-followers, which we are, so there's a bit more self-awareness in a sense (although in another sense, Canada isn't aware of itself at all - it denies it even has a self). But the tall-poppy syndrome is extremely strong here. Canadians distrust ambition and resent distinction. The result is that we have essentially no national heroes, and most people of ability end up leaving for the US where they can be recognized.
Yes, Canada and NZ much closer in culture than UK or US - but without that convict part that makes us both crave rules and resent them all in one. Canada, it seems to me, shares the harsh climate aspect (except cold!). Really interesting that you have the tall poppy thing too - I wonder if we all thought “stuff the stupid English class system” and this is how we responded? We don’t have a US to go to, however. Sometimes we go to the UK. We do have a “cultural cringe” thing going on. We’re historically less well-mannered than Canadians - Dad had to seriously warn me not to call people in England “bastards” as a sign of affection (“they’ll think you mean it as an insult.”) Hence I don’t think we have a reputation for being nice (unlike Canadians).
No! At least I don’t think so. One never knows. I found a guy who’s an East End London Barnett who looks very like me (the original Barnett was a pickpocket from the East End, I told you, very Dickensian) and we’re convinced we must be related somehow because seriously, I could pass him off as my brother and no one would blink. GENETICS IS WEIRD.
A fair number of officers from the East India Company army in India settled in Australia. The Gold Rush brought all sorts of adventurers...including plenty of North Americans. A friend of mine was descended from exiled Confederates (ex-slaveowners) who ended up in the NSW where they joined the land-owning gentry.
I went to school with a guy descended from the real life 'Fagin' who inspired the character in OLIVER TWIST. Convicts often encouraged relatives in England to commit crimes to get sent to Australia...skilled labour in particular did much better here than in England so long as they did not end up in Moreton Bay or Van Diemans Land.
Convict ancestry was considered distinctly shameful in much of Australia until the 70s, when it became fashionable. In some places all the old records were destroyed to protect family reputations.
People who were less remote in time remembered stuff that tends to get left out of the history books (prison sex) and the ultra-authoritarian legacy of the penal system itself lingered for a very long time indeed in the gaols and reform schools. The craving for respectability (recognition from the English) was truly intense until WW2. The American empire changed everything and only after the country was largely Americanised did convict ancestry become trendy. Then the history books got rewritten. Now it is all being re-written with an indigenous and multicultural focus. Inconvenient material is actively suppressed as always.
Indeed, yes. The influence of American outlaw culture - the revolutionary soldier, the cowboy gunslinger, the mafioso - led to a revaluation of value throughout the Anglosphere.
I remember as a kid, walking around my grandfather's neighborhood, someone pointed out a modernist looking mansion that they claimed was the domicile of a local mob boss. "Cool!" I said, somewhat excited to be in the presence, however remote, of such glamorous danger. My parents and grandparents, still very much of the English respectability mindset, were appalled. A generation gap for sure.
I have to confess, we were really excited, but it does also explain why everyone in my family is pretty contrarian. They were all convicts, or part of weird marginal religions (Baptists, Jews, Huguenots), or generally just a bit bad ass and insane (rebels, prostitutes etc). My Highlander ancestors, for example, were known to be bad tempered and one of them is notorious for shooting a guy with an arrow from a huge distance, after the guy insulted him for being short, during a clan war. The rumour was that the Devil gave my ancestor (Dubhsith Buie) his shooting skills, and his bad temper. I do think it explains the incident where my disabled colleague surprised a robber in her office and he went to assault her. I went INSANE and decided to attack the robber and chase him through the building. NB: I have cerebral palsy, I can’t normally run very well, but in this particular instance, I gave chase (luckily, perhaps, bad left leg caught on a chair and I didn’t catch him). I seriously saw red - Highland/Viking Berserker rage. Something I have to watch. The only person who thought what I had done was in any way sensible or admirable was my mother, from whom I evidently inherited this insanity.
The solutions to all the problems we face is becoming stronger individually and as a group.
No matter the problem, the only way to solve it remains the same through time immemorial - men making themselves stronger, banding together with other strong men from their tribe, and trying to effect change.
We are so far gone that me even saying this immediately sends people from various political camps into a rage spiral. Women get mad because I say "men". Liberals get mad because I say "strong". Libertarians get made because I say "group". Communists get mad for me saying "tribe".
The one solution to any and all problems is roundly disparaged and rejected by all of the ideologoyim.
Well said.
Luckily, out here still remains a stronk uncamped cohort 🤸
I enjoy how it is organized by topic. I wish I had time to read them all, might have to stick to Iron Ring Award Winners for now. Thanks for the curated list of what is no doubt excellent content.
Yeah, there's no way you could read it all. You're meant to just find the two or three or five or whatever pieces that catch your eye.
You've done a man's work, sir. Of course, I'll have to ramp up my self-cloning project to read them all. Unfortunately, my CRISPr printers seem to be running low on ink; just the other day, I caught several homunculi scanning back issues of The Village Voice for affordable call girls.
On a side note: Bob Dole?
Are you sure you didn't mean Ross Perot, you hockey-lovin, poutine-eatin scoundrel?
Yeah, I probably meant Ross Perot. Can't keep all your Yankee politicians straight.
And there's no way anyone will read everything here. The idea is a wide net, in which almost everyone will find something to enjoy.
I have fond memories of Perot from his self-funded, 15-minute TV spots: "Lookit this 'ere chart!" Even at that tender I age, I was like, "Fuck it. Let this crazy Foghorn Leghorn sonofabitch give it a shot."
Also, I grasp the overall purpose of these curated posts, even though I was too much of a paleofag/distracto-bot to have read "Social Matter." I will endeavor to read at least 5 per post, which will depend muchly on your salesmanship. No pressure.
No pressure at all.
My memories of Perot are basically that he had funny ears. I think. I was not very old and American politics seemed very distant and unimportant then.
Perot was way smarter than the blow-hard Buchanan and was the last chance the US had to avoid deindustrialisation. He was bullied out of politics by the Deep State to make way for the Clintons. The fix was in by then.
It's very interesting that Eisenstein works now for RFK. I am not sure whether RFK will have any chance in 2024 against the Establishment democrats but I will root for him. Regarding Eisenstein: his soft tone and his idealized Hippy-writing are very irritating for me. I can only endure it sporadically.
Yes, we are not his primary audience, at all, yet I think his ideas are quite essential to what comes next. I've been meaning to write about this ... to attempt to translate Eisenstein into Anon. And similarly, to translate BAP into hippy, perhaps ... I think there is far more in common between these groups than is usually recognized, in many ways what we want is compatible.
Hippy is Left Vitalism...BAP Right Vitalism. The common denominator is an aversion to managerial systems and the reduction of human life into fungible biomass being managed for profit. Socially the overlap is extraordinary. The key I suspect, to mediating between the two is to avoid sentiment and focus on fact/analysis and remain aloof from the ancient sectarian and legacy obsessions. No one wants to admit it, but the Frankfurt School (and Foucault) is in agreement with Heidegger and much of the reactionary right. The trouble with the Legacy Hippy Left is that the counter-culture cheerfully converged with the corporate system while the reactionaries have not yet figured out that they lost every political battle for centuries and most of their heroes were to blame for these losses.
Very good analysis, yes. There's also a masculine/feminine distinction - very few RWBBs among the hippies, for example (or even BBs, forget about the RW part). Similarly the hippies seem to have more than their share of women, while the men they do have are often quite soft ... although not always, those who involve themselves in regenerative agriculture, for example, often have some of their illusions stripped off, as is necessary for farmers.
And of course, you see this in the implicit spirituality of the two. The hippies from the beginning venerated the Earth Mother, as a conscious rejection of patriarchy; while the more recent RWBBs venerate Dyeus Phater, as a conscious rejection of the matriarchy. It seems to me that both are fundamentally incomplete - a marriage of the two, however....
RWBBs? Don't get the 'BB'. Maybe because it is late at night here.
An exchange of ideas is inevitable. Hippies are a mixed bunch. Kids raised by hippies are often super rw and are stone-cold realists. They'll eat trads for breakfast. The pressures for the exchange will not be ideational, but practical: the effects of law, finance, corporate and gov't interference...also considerations of personal and public safety arising from legal and illegal immigration and the deprioritisation of whites in general. As safety becomes an issue, even the earth mother bullshit artists wise-up and appreciate the value of protection from brute force. Hippies are naturally suspicious of transhumanism too. The thing about tribes (genuine ones) is that are familial networks that are effective at bonding because of a shared condition.
Right Wing Bodybuilders.
And yes, it is precisely a practical marriage that I envision, one emerging confluence of interests and complementarity of strengths.
I’m pretty sure he won’t be ALLOWED to have a chance. Can’t you see Lemmon and Matthau are fighting?
What you do here, this style of round-up, shows off the best of what a platform like this can be. Thank you.
There's enough material that it might be better in the future to with one just a third of it in one installment. Embarrassment of riches and all that.
Yeah, it adds up fast....
not a complaint, just a comment:
I was briefly excited seeing "spenglerposting" but realized quickly you weren't referring to Igon.
Thanks for the shout-out! Love what you're doing here, I don't know how you are able to read so much -- it's a lot easier to compile tweets. :)
My pleasure!
It's easy, I just don't sleep ;)
John, this may interest you. It has just come out.
https://www.palladiummag.com/2023/05/18/industrial-civilization-needs-a-biological-future/
Just from the title I can see this will be useful. Thank you.
Thanks John! I’m glad you enjoyed my story. Actually having two convict-descended parents is very rare… and our families hid it! Extraordinary but true…
Really? I thought most Aussies were descended from transports.
No! So - only a small amount are. The initial colony was very small, and there were also a fair proportion of them who were Army officers to guard the convicts. 37.7% of the population of Australia was convicts in 1837, but by 1847, only 3.2% were convicts. There was a massive demographic shift.
The main wave of Anglo-Celtic colonisation came with the Gold Rushes, not convicts. South Australia is all free settlers, Victoria was largely free settlers and Gold Rush, and so forth. I seem to have a particularly high proportion of convicts - eight or nine of them - mostly transported for petty theft, apart from the Irish rebel and the London prostitute who hit a non-paying client over the head with a jug. I can’t say I blame the latter. She had to stand on a chair to do it because she was so short, she had spirit. I have several Gold Rush ancestors too, as well as an Aboriginal ancestor, some Potato Famine refugees, and some cleared Highlanders: I’m a walking Australian stereotype. It’s seriously like something from Dickens: they all had really hard times, but did much better in Australia than back in the UK.
You're destroying all my illusions lol.
I wonder, is there any persistent cultural or socioeconomic difference between the convict descendents, and those of e.g. gold rush adventurers?
Yes, I think there is, and that that initial core of convicts/gaolers has had an outsized impact on the way colonial Australia developed. The other thing which has had a massive impact, in my view, is the very unforgiving climate: “droughts and flooding rains”. It means that one has to have a certain pragmatism.
Australia has a very strange culture, actually. Very different to either UK or the US. (1) We have a self image of being “larrikins” who challenge authority. (2) We are in fact, by and large, *extremely* rule-abiding and make up vast tracts of rules for ourselves. (3) The main way in which we are not rule-abiding is social rank and hierarchy - we hate people being above themselves, hence the so-called “tall-poppy syndrome” - cutting down people who we regard as “up themselves”. (4) Relatedly, it’s a very conformist society in many ways. I make these observations in part from living in the UK as an Australian for 6 years, and seeing my own country from afar. I love it, but I’m also aware of how very odd it is.
That's interesting. The similarities with Canada are quite strong - although we explicitly conceive of ourselves as rule-followers, which we are, so there's a bit more self-awareness in a sense (although in another sense, Canada isn't aware of itself at all - it denies it even has a self). But the tall-poppy syndrome is extremely strong here. Canadians distrust ambition and resent distinction. The result is that we have essentially no national heroes, and most people of ability end up leaving for the US where they can be recognized.
Yes, Canada and NZ much closer in culture than UK or US - but without that convict part that makes us both crave rules and resent them all in one. Canada, it seems to me, shares the harsh climate aspect (except cold!). Really interesting that you have the tall poppy thing too - I wonder if we all thought “stuff the stupid English class system” and this is how we responded? We don’t have a US to go to, however. Sometimes we go to the UK. We do have a “cultural cringe” thing going on. We’re historically less well-mannered than Canadians - Dad had to seriously warn me not to call people in England “bastards” as a sign of affection (“they’ll think you mean it as an insult.”) Hence I don’t think we have a reputation for being nice (unlike Canadians).
Katy..just wondered...are you related to David the long retired journalist/columnist by any chance?
No! At least I don’t think so. One never knows. I found a guy who’s an East End London Barnett who looks very like me (the original Barnett was a pickpocket from the East End, I told you, very Dickensian) and we’re convinced we must be related somehow because seriously, I could pass him off as my brother and no one would blink. GENETICS IS WEIRD.
A fair number of officers from the East India Company army in India settled in Australia. The Gold Rush brought all sorts of adventurers...including plenty of North Americans. A friend of mine was descended from exiled Confederates (ex-slaveowners) who ended up in the NSW where they joined the land-owning gentry.
I went to school with a guy descended from the real life 'Fagin' who inspired the character in OLIVER TWIST. Convicts often encouraged relatives in England to commit crimes to get sent to Australia...skilled labour in particular did much better here than in England so long as they did not end up in Moreton Bay or Van Diemans Land.
Convict ancestry was considered distinctly shameful in much of Australia until the 70s, when it became fashionable. In some places all the old records were destroyed to protect family reputations.
Interesting that it was seen as shameful. I always thought the convict angle was kinda badass. Then again I'm a child of my time in many respects.
People who were less remote in time remembered stuff that tends to get left out of the history books (prison sex) and the ultra-authoritarian legacy of the penal system itself lingered for a very long time indeed in the gaols and reform schools. The craving for respectability (recognition from the English) was truly intense until WW2. The American empire changed everything and only after the country was largely Americanised did convict ancestry become trendy. Then the history books got rewritten. Now it is all being re-written with an indigenous and multicultural focus. Inconvenient material is actively suppressed as always.
Indeed, yes. The influence of American outlaw culture - the revolutionary soldier, the cowboy gunslinger, the mafioso - led to a revaluation of value throughout the Anglosphere.
I remember as a kid, walking around my grandfather's neighborhood, someone pointed out a modernist looking mansion that they claimed was the domicile of a local mob boss. "Cool!" I said, somewhat excited to be in the presence, however remote, of such glamorous danger. My parents and grandparents, still very much of the English respectability mindset, were appalled. A generation gap for sure.
I have to confess, we were really excited, but it does also explain why everyone in my family is pretty contrarian. They were all convicts, or part of weird marginal religions (Baptists, Jews, Huguenots), or generally just a bit bad ass and insane (rebels, prostitutes etc). My Highlander ancestors, for example, were known to be bad tempered and one of them is notorious for shooting a guy with an arrow from a huge distance, after the guy insulted him for being short, during a clan war. The rumour was that the Devil gave my ancestor (Dubhsith Buie) his shooting skills, and his bad temper. I do think it explains the incident where my disabled colleague surprised a robber in her office and he went to assault her. I went INSANE and decided to attack the robber and chase him through the building. NB: I have cerebral palsy, I can’t normally run very well, but in this particular instance, I gave chase (luckily, perhaps, bad left leg caught on a chair and I didn’t catch him). I seriously saw red - Highland/Viking Berserker rage. Something I have to watch. The only person who thought what I had done was in any way sensible or admirable was my mother, from whom I evidently inherited this insanity.
Yeah they destroyed stuff in our family. Dad was told his family came from England well after all the Fleets (total lies).
The topical organization makes more sense to me.
I stayed up waay too late last night reading but thoroughly enjoyed it, learned a lot and subscribed to some new stacks.
Thank you for your efforts.
Thank you for the feedback!
Extra points for the Elric reference.
Elric is severely underappreciated.
Aye
Drowning in the pictures, and nostalgia over my 40 years of being an avid tabletop, pen&paper roleplayer and gamesmaster.
Am in awe of the list of reading put together, but for me the pictures were as the balm of Gilead.
Honestly, the art is one of my favorite parts of doing this.
This was fantastic.
Thank you.
Thanks very much for the links!
Your writing deserves more exposure, just because it is not on Substack is no excuse.
John, thanks for the support and the shout out. I love these reaction posts, you are doing some top notch curation here.
It was a great story, btw. Thoroughly enjoyed that bit of mildly satirical creepiness.
Thank you! There's a longer version a much different ending I may post. I haven't decided yet.
I won't lie I was kinda rooting for the silly woman lol
I think I'll post the alternate ending. It'll be interesting to see reactions. I like both for different reasons.
I prefer experimentation. Can I pls have my want? 😳 [No heed for ask no questions rule 😇]
The monkey mind likes to monkey ;) but you did not say if you liked how I monkeyed with the format this week....
I'd love to see more plucky monkeying outside the form lines/faces; grouping is but one dimension ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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