"If a man will begin with certainties, he shall end with doubts, but if he will be content to begin with doubts he shall end in certainties." - Francis Bacon
There are those who over time are proven truthful and thus gain a reputation for accuracy, honesty and the most important -humility...a willingness to admit when wrong and correct. That none of these include any corporate outlets is why we're all here, and so bless them for providing us this opportunity.
This is the first piece I have read that actually analyzes (correctly) what most of us do when evaluating positions/sources/what-we-read. This is a more important piece than the credit it will receive, sadly. Thanks for thinking this through and writing it down.
The source-fetish is reproducing the pre-modern worldview of Scholastic science: the era in which every valid belief had to be based on the writings of a recognised authority, typically Aristotle. The era of the 'ipse dixit' citation ('ipse dixit', he said it himself).
Early modern natural philosophers had to fight like tigers against this pre-modern approach.
Getting people to focus on evidence rather than assertion by a trusted authority remade the West. The current regression guarantees a new dark age. As Richard Feynman once said, 'science is a belief in the ignorance of the experts'.
This is an opportunity to make a plug for the relevance of Pierre Bayle. Voltaire observed that Bayle had been the first man in history to write a book that could teach anyone how to think for themselves. It is harder to imagine higher praise than that.
Bayle, a Huguenot who settled in Rotterdam, wrote a multi-volume dictionary that covered science, philosophy, history, religion and literature. Bayle's methodology was interesting. He looked at every available perspective, no matter how obscure or preposterous. He treated all views with equal reserve. He exhausted every aspect of each issue and tested arguments against the evidence and rival arguments. The reader makes their way through a dense mass of notes, footnotes and notes within notes. After being exposed to the complexity of the material and the controversies of religion and literary criticism, the reader is left to make up their own mind.
Bayle's willingness to ask hard questions coupled with his refusal to explain his own preferences left everyone confused about his genuine beliefs. He was revered by the leading natural philosophers of his day, practically everyone of whom corresponded or visited him. He was translated into English by a man who was (if I recall correctly) one of Newton's pallbearers.
Bayle's dictionary was reasonably well known to serious scholars across Europe until the late 19th c. Now he is known only to specialists in 17th c literature and science and antiquarians. His approach remains the gold standard.
"Despite this, academic scientists almost never make the connection between the shortcomings of the peer review system, and the unreliability of the literature. They'll usually say that while it isn't perfect, it's the best we've got, and better than nothing. In fact, it is worse than nothing, because it leads directly to pernicious complacency: a paper has passed peer review, so why bother trying to replicate the results? It's that mindset that allowed shit results to accumulate in the literature to the point where a 'replication crisis' could become a crisis in the first place."
1000 times, this! I have heard so many academics in conferences respond to "Uhm... isn't that a really bad data set to use?" with "Yes, but it is the best we have." Of course, if you were to scream back "THEN WHY THE FUCK DID YOU DO ANALYSIS ON IT AT ALL?!" it would make you the crazy guy in the room, because apparently that answer is good enough. Everyone in academia knows in their heart of hearts that the goal is to publish a lot and get tenure then grants blah blah blah; finding truth, or even avoiding adding to the pile of misunderstanding and falsehoods, is a distant priority for 95% of researchers.
"Peace is not something you can force on anything or anyone... much less upon one's own mind. It is like trying to quiet the ocean by pressing upon the waves. Sanity lies in somehow opening to the chaos, allowing anxiety, moving deeply into the tumult, diving into the waves, where underneath, within, peace simply is." — Gerald G. May
The peer review process where it’s publish or perish means that everyone is too busy trying to publish their own substandard papers to check anything. Having to “earn” the right to work on the hard and interesting problems by publishing at an excessive rate soured academia for me; that and the politics of you scratch my back and I’ll scratch your’s. I think these things get worse every year. It’s reduced to the point now where those that are in receipt of pharma funding will often write a pharma friendly abstract that is contradicted by the contents of the paper at least in part.
The internet is great because you can access the writings and opinions of people in Russia for instance to see what is actually going on. Normies aren’t interested in doing this which is why the propaganda works so effectively on them. Still some questions remain unanswered; I have a sneaking feeling the early “mistakes” are to get rid of a load of obsolete tanks and military that have no survivability on the modern battlefield of drones, and are just consuming resources. Seems to have been the Russian way in the past. I am also wondering when their cyberwarfare capability will show up. I have a sneaking feeling it will occur at a very convenient time to push internet restrictions and further destabilise the financial system in the West at the most opportune time to push for CBDCs.
Jun 13, 2022·edited Jun 13, 2022Liked by John Carter
Is a desire for authorial transparency a foolish boomer ideal? I find myself immersed in the substack world where all pundits are anon (irksome), yet form a community promoting each other (good thing except that it reinforces anonymity).
Is it beyond the pale to point to one's own influences, other than nods to other substackers? Who are the writers that have names that you consider worthy? And how would you describe your politics/worldview? Can you let the John Carter mask slip a little?
Sorry to bombard you w/ so many interrogatories. I'll try to buffer the aggression by offering my own bio/influences and hope you will reciprocate as you see fit. I'm a boomer (as you know) but not a normie. Detest the legacy media. Real name William Thistlethwaite. Live in NYS, US. Married late, living w/ wife, no kids. Got red pilled by 9/11, tho I'd been a truth seeker for 15 years before that, cutting my teeth on the JFK aftermath. I'm conspiracy thinking w/ an ideological bias to the Right. Post-Catholic, neo-Gnostic, anti-Zionist, anti-neocon. Don't follow Q. I like a lot of writers at Unz and Occidental Observer. I get more information from books than podcasts as you'd expect from a boomer. I value good prose and good grammar.
I've been thinking about starting a substack, to focus at least in part on this topic, finding firm footing in this fractured and disintegrating narrative landscape. I've been a long time student of such narratives, and I am astonished and appalled at how predatory and cruel the process has become especially for the oblivious normie.
I like your method. It' pretty much how I gather information and make my decisions. The Good Citizen had a good reply about not including corporate outlets, which I agree with. Granted, I am sure that there a few alt-media sites that perpetuate the idea that they are free and independent, when in fact they may be controlled opposition, but eventually you can see through it.
A lot of times, just by reading other's comments you can gather information as well and come to a logical consensus on a subject. They don't have to be writer's, just ordinary people from all walks of life. Ordinary people aren't as stupid and gullible as the elite want you to believe, and that will be there downfall. Linking once again @https://nothingnewunderthesun2016.com/
While I have a similar process in many ways, I still like and make use of the "reliable source" heuristic. Sticking to independent sources, I gravitate towards those individuals that I perceive to have motivations and values aligned with my own. These are my "reliable sources". People like you, Robert Barnes, Jeff Deist, Chris Martenson, Mathew Crawford, Michael McConkey, other anon substackers etc. Then, I just let interest guide me to keep learning enjoyable. For current events, these sources generally point to the highest quality independent sources for particular issues (as you've done here with slavland). Maybe one of these days I'll trust the wrong person and end up believing something stupid, but usually I cross check anything that doesn't resonate. I know it might seem like I'm setting myself up to be in an echo chamber, but I feel like I understand my ideological adversaries more than well enough, and exposure to those ideas and positions is toxic to ratiocination. So even though you don't believe in reliable sources, I just wanted to thank you for being one of my favorite reliable sources!
On a slightly related note, I've discovered that our local libraries will only purchase books from "reputable publishers," which translates to top 40 chic lit and pop culture, with a heavy emphasis on cookbooks and graphic novels. Very difficult to find even a 'classic,' let alone nonfiction that is not dedicated to the Narrative of the Day. So I end up buying a lot more books than I have bookshelf space.
My approach to judging quality of content is perhaps too simplistic — read widely, then apply common sense. I just don't have time to do deep research these days.
You're describing what sounds like a more general case of Gell-Mann amnesia. Total breakdown in the concept of authority, because they're mostly idiots. I like it.
I have a bevy of friends and associates who’s first response to anything I say that contradicts anything they believe is “who/what are your sources “.
My reply (knowing that if I cite anything specific it will be challenged and dismissed) is that I read everything. Then sift and balance. And then formulate my own perspective. So then they must need challenge only me. And of course when they cite, I can dismiss. Within a close circle of friends and family and everyday associations (those one wishes most to enlighten) it is better to gently tilt them off balance and have them reach for greater stability. As the old adage says, “You can lead a mule to water but you can’t make him drink”
I've found that even when a source is given that reinforces my viewpoint it is rarely looked at by the other party. On the rare occasion that it is they will invariably try to discredit it by some "fact checker" like Snopes. It is discouraging when you interact with people who clearly don't want to think critically.
There are those who over time are proven truthful and thus gain a reputation for accuracy, honesty and the most important -humility...a willingness to admit when wrong and correct. That none of these include any corporate outlets is why we're all here, and so bless them for providing us this opportunity.
This is the first piece I have read that actually analyzes (correctly) what most of us do when evaluating positions/sources/what-we-read. This is a more important piece than the credit it will receive, sadly. Thanks for thinking this through and writing it down.
The source-fetish is reproducing the pre-modern worldview of Scholastic science: the era in which every valid belief had to be based on the writings of a recognised authority, typically Aristotle. The era of the 'ipse dixit' citation ('ipse dixit', he said it himself).
Early modern natural philosophers had to fight like tigers against this pre-modern approach.
Getting people to focus on evidence rather than assertion by a trusted authority remade the West. The current regression guarantees a new dark age. As Richard Feynman once said, 'science is a belief in the ignorance of the experts'.
This is an opportunity to make a plug for the relevance of Pierre Bayle. Voltaire observed that Bayle had been the first man in history to write a book that could teach anyone how to think for themselves. It is harder to imagine higher praise than that.
Bayle, a Huguenot who settled in Rotterdam, wrote a multi-volume dictionary that covered science, philosophy, history, religion and literature. Bayle's methodology was interesting. He looked at every available perspective, no matter how obscure or preposterous. He treated all views with equal reserve. He exhausted every aspect of each issue and tested arguments against the evidence and rival arguments. The reader makes their way through a dense mass of notes, footnotes and notes within notes. After being exposed to the complexity of the material and the controversies of religion and literary criticism, the reader is left to make up their own mind.
Bayle's willingness to ask hard questions coupled with his refusal to explain his own preferences left everyone confused about his genuine beliefs. He was revered by the leading natural philosophers of his day, practically everyone of whom corresponded or visited him. He was translated into English by a man who was (if I recall correctly) one of Newton's pallbearers.
Bayle's dictionary was reasonably well known to serious scholars across Europe until the late 19th c. Now he is known only to specialists in 17th c literature and science and antiquarians. His approach remains the gold standard.
Excellent and well written!
"Despite this, academic scientists almost never make the connection between the shortcomings of the peer review system, and the unreliability of the literature. They'll usually say that while it isn't perfect, it's the best we've got, and better than nothing. In fact, it is worse than nothing, because it leads directly to pernicious complacency: a paper has passed peer review, so why bother trying to replicate the results? It's that mindset that allowed shit results to accumulate in the literature to the point where a 'replication crisis' could become a crisis in the first place."
1000 times, this! I have heard so many academics in conferences respond to "Uhm... isn't that a really bad data set to use?" with "Yes, but it is the best we have." Of course, if you were to scream back "THEN WHY THE FUCK DID YOU DO ANALYSIS ON IT AT ALL?!" it would make you the crazy guy in the room, because apparently that answer is good enough. Everyone in academia knows in their heart of hearts that the goal is to publish a lot and get tenure then grants blah blah blah; finding truth, or even avoiding adding to the pile of misunderstanding and falsehoods, is a distant priority for 95% of researchers.
💯 🙌 ❤️
"Peace is not something you can force on anything or anyone... much less upon one's own mind. It is like trying to quiet the ocean by pressing upon the waves. Sanity lies in somehow opening to the chaos, allowing anxiety, moving deeply into the tumult, diving into the waves, where underneath, within, peace simply is." — Gerald G. May
The peer review process where it’s publish or perish means that everyone is too busy trying to publish their own substandard papers to check anything. Having to “earn” the right to work on the hard and interesting problems by publishing at an excessive rate soured academia for me; that and the politics of you scratch my back and I’ll scratch your’s. I think these things get worse every year. It’s reduced to the point now where those that are in receipt of pharma funding will often write a pharma friendly abstract that is contradicted by the contents of the paper at least in part.
The internet is great because you can access the writings and opinions of people in Russia for instance to see what is actually going on. Normies aren’t interested in doing this which is why the propaganda works so effectively on them. Still some questions remain unanswered; I have a sneaking feeling the early “mistakes” are to get rid of a load of obsolete tanks and military that have no survivability on the modern battlefield of drones, and are just consuming resources. Seems to have been the Russian way in the past. I am also wondering when their cyberwarfare capability will show up. I have a sneaking feeling it will occur at a very convenient time to push internet restrictions and further destabilise the financial system in the West at the most opportune time to push for CBDCs.
Is a desire for authorial transparency a foolish boomer ideal? I find myself immersed in the substack world where all pundits are anon (irksome), yet form a community promoting each other (good thing except that it reinforces anonymity).
Is it beyond the pale to point to one's own influences, other than nods to other substackers? Who are the writers that have names that you consider worthy? And how would you describe your politics/worldview? Can you let the John Carter mask slip a little?
Sorry to bombard you w/ so many interrogatories. I'll try to buffer the aggression by offering my own bio/influences and hope you will reciprocate as you see fit. I'm a boomer (as you know) but not a normie. Detest the legacy media. Real name William Thistlethwaite. Live in NYS, US. Married late, living w/ wife, no kids. Got red pilled by 9/11, tho I'd been a truth seeker for 15 years before that, cutting my teeth on the JFK aftermath. I'm conspiracy thinking w/ an ideological bias to the Right. Post-Catholic, neo-Gnostic, anti-Zionist, anti-neocon. Don't follow Q. I like a lot of writers at Unz and Occidental Observer. I get more information from books than podcasts as you'd expect from a boomer. I value good prose and good grammar.
I've been thinking about starting a substack, to focus at least in part on this topic, finding firm footing in this fractured and disintegrating narrative landscape. I've been a long time student of such narratives, and I am astonished and appalled at how predatory and cruel the process has become especially for the oblivious normie.
I like your method. It' pretty much how I gather information and make my decisions. The Good Citizen had a good reply about not including corporate outlets, which I agree with. Granted, I am sure that there a few alt-media sites that perpetuate the idea that they are free and independent, when in fact they may be controlled opposition, but eventually you can see through it.
A lot of times, just by reading other's comments you can gather information as well and come to a logical consensus on a subject. They don't have to be writer's, just ordinary people from all walks of life. Ordinary people aren't as stupid and gullible as the elite want you to believe, and that will be there downfall. Linking once again @https://nothingnewunderthesun2016.com/
Another great one John.
For my simple mind, I revert to a smell-test.
If it stinks, verify it's shit, otherwise, do as you wish.
30% have no "skepticism". They just fall into the hole.
Another 30%, have too much. They bypass the hole, not 5-Why-ing.
The remaining 40%, stop, look at the hole, verify it exists, then ask who dug the whole hole....and proceed to ask more questions...
There is a bell curve for everything.
While I have a similar process in many ways, I still like and make use of the "reliable source" heuristic. Sticking to independent sources, I gravitate towards those individuals that I perceive to have motivations and values aligned with my own. These are my "reliable sources". People like you, Robert Barnes, Jeff Deist, Chris Martenson, Mathew Crawford, Michael McConkey, other anon substackers etc. Then, I just let interest guide me to keep learning enjoyable. For current events, these sources generally point to the highest quality independent sources for particular issues (as you've done here with slavland). Maybe one of these days I'll trust the wrong person and end up believing something stupid, but usually I cross check anything that doesn't resonate. I know it might seem like I'm setting myself up to be in an echo chamber, but I feel like I understand my ideological adversaries more than well enough, and exposure to those ideas and positions is toxic to ratiocination. So even though you don't believe in reliable sources, I just wanted to thank you for being one of my favorite reliable sources!
On a slightly related note, I've discovered that our local libraries will only purchase books from "reputable publishers," which translates to top 40 chic lit and pop culture, with a heavy emphasis on cookbooks and graphic novels. Very difficult to find even a 'classic,' let alone nonfiction that is not dedicated to the Narrative of the Day. So I end up buying a lot more books than I have bookshelf space.
My approach to judging quality of content is perhaps too simplistic — read widely, then apply common sense. I just don't have time to do deep research these days.
You're describing what sounds like a more general case of Gell-Mann amnesia. Total breakdown in the concept of authority, because they're mostly idiots. I like it.
Well said.
I have a bevy of friends and associates who’s first response to anything I say that contradicts anything they believe is “who/what are your sources “.
My reply (knowing that if I cite anything specific it will be challenged and dismissed) is that I read everything. Then sift and balance. And then formulate my own perspective. So then they must need challenge only me. And of course when they cite, I can dismiss. Within a close circle of friends and family and everyday associations (those one wishes most to enlighten) it is better to gently tilt them off balance and have them reach for greater stability. As the old adage says, “You can lead a mule to water but you can’t make him drink”
I've found that even when a source is given that reinforces my viewpoint it is rarely looked at by the other party. On the rare occasion that it is they will invariably try to discredit it by some "fact checker" like Snopes. It is discouraging when you interact with people who clearly don't want to think critically.