Rationally discussing things in a civilized manner is itself a skill that must be learned and accepted. And that, by definition, cannot be done via rational discussion.
Surely you didn’t misunderstand me to be serious about doing you harm? The whole point was that our rational discussion of the alternative to punching, that is: rational discussion, was demonstrably preferable to might-makes-right.
And as far as my point about billionaires, you misunderstood.
Weilding power in the form of money on the order of a billion dollars, is not an order of magnitude any of us would agree to cede. I recognize no such king as rightful. Most people can’t grok a billion dollars. I use this illustration to make the point: a million seconds takes less than 2 weeks; a billion seconds lasts more than thirty years. A billionaire is not a fancy millionaire, a billionaire is a policy catastrophe.
If there is profit AFTER the Make-Everyone-Basically-Middle-Class organization achieves its titular mission statement, then those so inclined can duke it out for their share of that excess. But they don’t get seconds before we’ve all had firsts.
> Surely you didn’t misunderstand me to be serious about doing you harm? The whole point was that our rational discussion of the alternative to punching, that is: rational discussion, was demonstrably preferable to might-makes-right.
Well, I am being serious. The problem with rational discussion is that it only works if the other party is interested and able.
> Weilding power in the form of money on the order of a billion dollars, is not an order of magnitude any of us would agree to cede.
Hence the need for a distributed system with multiple billionaires. As opposed to putting all wealth under the control of some "Make-Everyone-Basically-Middle-Class organization".
> If there is profit AFTER the Make-Everyone-Basically-Middle-Class organization achieves its titular mission statement, then those so inclined can duke it out for their share of that excess. But they don’t get seconds before we’ve all had firsts.
Let me try to explain my point one more time before I give up on your ability to engage in rational discussion. Your "Make-Everyone-Basically-Middle-Class organization" would find that as it attempted to carry out its mission, all the wealth it was counting on suddenly starts evaporating.
> Discipline or beating? Because the latter is not the former
It can be.
https://www.aporiamagazine.com/p/is-spanking-really-harmful-to-children
You’re wrong here, and without addressing the article cited (TL/DR yet), I propose to punch you in the mouth until you agree with me.
Or...hear me out...maybe you’d prefer to discuss it in a civilized manner.
And that, my friend, is all the proof you need. No one chooses punches in the mouth. No one does not resent corporal punishment.
Rationally discussing things in a civilized manner is itself a skill that must be learned and accepted. And that, by definition, cannot be done via rational discussion.
https://www.scifiwright.com/2023/11/believing-is-seeing/
In any case, you are the one badly in need of correction, possibly via physical violence.
Of course it is done by rational discussion.
Well, so far you've yet to demonstrate the ability to engage in rational discussion.
Surely you didn’t misunderstand me to be serious about doing you harm? The whole point was that our rational discussion of the alternative to punching, that is: rational discussion, was demonstrably preferable to might-makes-right.
And as far as my point about billionaires, you misunderstood.
Weilding power in the form of money on the order of a billion dollars, is not an order of magnitude any of us would agree to cede. I recognize no such king as rightful. Most people can’t grok a billion dollars. I use this illustration to make the point: a million seconds takes less than 2 weeks; a billion seconds lasts more than thirty years. A billionaire is not a fancy millionaire, a billionaire is a policy catastrophe.
If there is profit AFTER the Make-Everyone-Basically-Middle-Class organization achieves its titular mission statement, then those so inclined can duke it out for their share of that excess. But they don’t get seconds before we’ve all had firsts.
> Surely you didn’t misunderstand me to be serious about doing you harm? The whole point was that our rational discussion of the alternative to punching, that is: rational discussion, was demonstrably preferable to might-makes-right.
Well, I am being serious. The problem with rational discussion is that it only works if the other party is interested and able.
> Weilding power in the form of money on the order of a billion dollars, is not an order of magnitude any of us would agree to cede.
Hence the need for a distributed system with multiple billionaires. As opposed to putting all wealth under the control of some "Make-Everyone-Basically-Middle-Class organization".
> If there is profit AFTER the Make-Everyone-Basically-Middle-Class organization achieves its titular mission statement, then those so inclined can duke it out for their share of that excess. But they don’t get seconds before we’ve all had firsts.
Did you even read my comment on the subject? Here is the link in case you lost it. (https://barsoom.substack.com/p/the-day-the-irish-snapped/comment/44275690)
Let me try to explain my point one more time before I give up on your ability to engage in rational discussion. Your "Make-Everyone-Basically-Middle-Class organization" would find that as it attempted to carry out its mission, all the wealth it was counting on suddenly starts evaporating.
Never mind the corporation, that wasn’t serious. I’ll come back to this but bedtime now.