You must understand, the leading Bolsheviks who took over Russia were not Russians. They hated Russians. They hated Christians. Driven by ethnic hatred they tortured and slaughtered millions of Russians without a shred of human remorse. It cannot be overstated. Bolshevism committed the greatest human slaughter of all time. The fact that most of the world is ignorant and uncaring about this enormous crime is proof that the global media is in the hands of the perpetrators.
Same in Romania at least until the 60's. The communist political police in Romania was established by NKVD and put under the leadership of a soviet spy named Boris Grünberg who was personally involved in the Pitesti Experiment.
"Referring to this, British historian Dennis Deletant claims that of the total 60 leaders of the Securitate Directorate, 38 were ethnically Romanian, while 22 were divided between 5 other communities (in this statistic, Deletant counts Nicolschi as an ethnic Russian)."
Ha...another apologist. I love when western historians explain it to us, dirty, backwards eastern europeans, how it really was. Our main sadist was coincidentally born under the name of Benjamin Eisenberger. I can only bet that his forebears didn't arrive this place with Árpád. Figures.
My only little respite is, that the communists were quite adept killing their own too. Although these 2 did live long enough to see the fall of the system.
Rákosi (born Rosenfeld) Mátyás, the communist leader of Hungary after the second world war used to tell that joke, that they only appointed Garbai Sándor to the popular tribunes during the Hungarian Soviet Republic of 1919, because they needed someone to sign the executions during Sabbath. He was the only hungarian among them.
For some reason, people still shoot me down when I say that it might have contributed to the antisemitism and what happened later on. It was just a coincidence then, I guess.
(Lukács was also one...and he used to tell a story about how he ordered the decimation of his military unit, when they failed one of their objectives. There's no evidence that this happened other than him saying it, but still...why would you brag about something so terrible. Truly a shining example of humanity.)
The ethnic dimension of Bolshevism was well-known at the time. Even Churchill commented on it. Essentially all of the anti-communists of the 20s and 30s invoked the heavy Jewish involvement in communism as the primary motivation for their anti-Semitic stance.
Of course, these days one is not allowed to discuss such things.
I get the feeling that the biggest goal of the war in Ukraine was to get Russians and Ukrainians to kill each other in large numbers. And in that respect, it was Nuland and Blinken's greatest success.
I fear for his safety. He's got a photographic memory. Names people, states U.S. Codes/Statutes they've crossed, outlines crimes committed by .gov employees, etc.
I think the provocations had more to do with staging a color revolution, followed by almost a decade of warfare against ethnic Russians in the Donbass.
"Two weeks before the Western-backed coup in Ukraine, a leaked recording of Victoria Nuland and Geoffrey Pyatt revealed that Washington was hand-picking the new government"
If you are talking about "Jewish Bolsheviks" here, they were Jews by Russian definitions but I don't think most Americans would consider 2nd or 3rd generation atheists to be Jews (or Christians for that matter). Since we are talking about the Russian Empire, some of the subject peoples were prominent including Poles, Latvians, Georgians and Ukrainians. Iron Felix was Polish and the Latvian Rifles were the shock troops. If you look at the chain of command for the Holodomor, everyone in it was Ukrainian until you got to Stalin himself who was not ethnic Russian either.
The best demonstration of this point is the fact that the first thing the Bolsheviks did after overthrowing the Russian establishment and setting up their own regime was to go after not only Russian Christians, but traditional and religious members of all the resentful, bio-Leninist minority groups that made up the Bolsheviks, Jews included. There was an entire branch of the communist party called the Yevsektsiya (евсекция) dedicated exclusively to destroying Jewish religious life and forcibly converting the Jewish youth to communism in order to make them good soviet citizens. Any Jews who resisted this program were automatically considered anti-revolutionary dissidents and were subject to arrest and torture by the NKVD (or whatever the secret police were called at that point), often followed by exile to Siberian labor camps or execution. But because all this was done in the name of communism, not fascism or similar, and often by “fellow Jews”, this has all been simply memory-holed, like most atrocities of the Bolsheviks.
Never said they weren’t (ethnically) jews. Just that they hated religious jews as much as they hated Christianity, and everything else normal and “bourgeois”. Many of these people assuredly had Jewish blood, but their only religion was Communism.
Who’s the Jew? Where’s the Jew? O he’s disappeared! Is he white? Is he religious? Is he ethnic? St Paul said the Jews killed Christ and is the enemy of mankind. He wrote that before the Talmud was written and before they owned banks. The Jews are the dumbest people on the planet. They killed their own Messiah. He did amazing and unprecedented miracles in front of them and rose from the dead and they still won’t let go of their insane supremacist ideology. Please do yourself a favour and get away from that mess. Get baptised.
Israel is a secular state that, they just wanted to increase their population in order to grow the country economically and be able to demographically dominate the local Arabs. They couldn’t care less about who’s actually Jewish or not in a meaningful sense. They famously broadened the “law of return” after the fall of the iron curtain, welcoming thousands of immigrants from the former soviet union on the mere qualification that they “consider themselves” Jewish, with no proof of ethnicity or religiosity required whatsoever.
Only in the sense that western countries are secular. As in, the Schmittian “state of exception” is decided based on secular or pragmatic ideals, not religious dogma. Obviously there are major political factions within Israel (such as the kahanist “religious zionist” types) that wish it were otherwise, just like there are Christian nationalists in the US and Catholic integralists in some European countries. But they are a minority within the government, certainly not the ones making decisions.
Pretty much. If you look at Israeli leftist media, NGO’s, political rhetoric etc. it’s literally indistinguishable from shitlibs in the US and every other GAE-dominated country. We just don’t hear about it much in America, since Israeli social media presence is run by Netanyahu-brand anti woke types, so their signaling is all macho and nationalist.
Funny that. Who do Germans make their Holocaust Reparations cheque out to? O yes, the Jews. They sure identify as Jewish when they get their reparation money their synagogue protection money when they agitate for a religious right to abortion, censorship, hate speech laws, prayer free schools, the dismantling of anti obscenity laws and arms and missiles to Israel. Funny that. Call them out on their wickedness and suddenly Jews are white boys.
I wonder what those deranged woke students with multicoloured hair and confused gender would make of this story. Not that they would ever read it. A hard reminder of the horrors perpetrated in the name of high moralism...beware of the do gooders!
They would say, that never happened, and if it did it has nothing to do with what we want to do now, and you are sick and paranoid for bringing it up, all the while, in their hearts they wish they could do all of this to their enemies, and they will if they get the chance.
"if they get the chance" They definitely will do this. they will do everything done in the red terrors. there will be a gulag. they will do everything pol pot and mao did. and all the rest of them.
Nothing in their ideology gives them any reason not to.
They speak in violent and eliminationist language.
They verbalize and believe in a pure distinction between themselves and non-human, evil others.
All the prerequisites are there.
Once in power, the most vicious and sadistic will seize the opportunity to inflict this. And as we saw in Nazi Germany, the female prison guards were the cruelest of all.
"Should the tyranny that has descended on our age ever gain the power it seeks and then be challenged enough to feel itself in danger, the mass annihilations that will be carried out by homosexual, transsexual, and especially lesbian commissars will exceed in scale and cruelty anything that has yet happened in known history. Imagine lesbian mulatta commissars with young Martin Sheen face and haircut manning the future Bergen-Belsens, installations that will span tens of miles."
I don't recall ever hearing about female prison guards in Nazi Germany. I have certainly read that women were the most enthusiastic Nazis but there's a big difference there.
Glad I found the sub convo where people are taking it seriously. I think after watching people literally believe that you can die in a restaurant standing up without a mask but ya fine sitting chewing with your pie hole open… yeah I think this level of insanity is more than possible.
I’m very ‘left’ but what is happening with the ‘party’ is going Animal Farm in a hotted up V8 off a cliff
Not would, do. I encountered many of those imbeciles working in universities. I am now more convinced than ever that modern universities need to be burned to the ground.
Hide them! Buy them! Appropriate them! Copy them, memorise them, encourage others to do the same! Use exclamation marks!
In all seriousness, please do consider saving old books no matter the topic or veracity: a printed book is a thing that exists, and is beyond the reach of the global capitalistic techno-fascistoid oligarchy's control.
And the more "problematic" or "challenging" the book is, the better.
They are already trying to turn the world into Pitesti. They want this.
•Forcing you to eat garbage: You vill eat ze bugs
•Betrayal from family: "How to talk to your friends and family about vaccines" & "Orange man bad!"
•Betrayal of friends: Being forced to 'dissavow' former friends for being politically incorrect
•Exposing details of life: Social media scraping for minor 'crimes' or even inventing ones in the past and forcing you to apologize ie Brett Kavenaugh.
•Material impoverishment: Losing job via vax mandate or because you support Orange Man
•Moral humiliation: White privilege, male privilege, let the immigrants in and give your stuff
•False baptism: Vaccine as the new unholy sacrament.
I personally read American university professors claiming that Soviet Gulags were in fact essentially spa resorts that combined easy therapeutic labor with excellent healthcare and education for the inmates, who greatly benefited.
Propaganda knows no national boundaries...and is quite at home at universities. See Foucault and the postmodernists in general, what a bunch of dangerous loonies...
Notice the patronizing, moralistic language these monsters use. In between electric shocks to the nuts they have the chutzpah to say you are the bad guy for not writing to some girl.
You see people like this in day to day life who will confidently express their moral superiority while living like total degenerates. You'll feel like you're taking crazy pills that everyone defers to them. Not to discount the victims of that horrid experiment, but we live in a "soft" version of the same thing.
I think the closest we have come to this by our government today is the J6 prisoners, though not quite to the same level as Pitesti - yet. These people are sociopaths and have no morals. They only see morals as a tool to use against others.
Do you know how to read, sir? Do your 21 "likers"?
Mr. Carter goes through the pain of researching the hell of Pitesti, concluding that he knows of no worse case, and in your rush to make a contemporary point you steamroll everything he has done. Do you not see just how much worse the very worst J6 guards would have to be, and then multiplied by 10? "Not quite to the same level." !!???
Not long ago, the J6 prisoners were allowed to host a podcast. They had wifi, Shure microphones, a table laid out with Trump books and paraphernalia, and the Gadsden and Americans flags on the wall behind them for a backdrop.
Anyone comparing the "DC Gulag" to Pitesti needs to read the article again. Read it slowly.
I guess understatement is lost on you. If you have not read accurate reports about how the J6 prisoners are being tortured, I suggest you do. I certainly didn't steam roll JC's post. It stands on its own, irrespective of my comment. If given the order, I don't think it would long before they crossed into Pitesti territory. What do you think they have planned for MAGA supporters in the "reeducation camps" the Left keeps talking about?
I apologize for the tone of my comment. Heat of the initial reaction.
I do not apologize for it's basic point though. We are morally obliged to acknowledge different degrees of evil and suffering. And some differences of degree are so wide as to demand radical distinctions in our vocabulary. Carter makes an argument in his post and in the comments which suggests our entire societies are moving toward more Pitestis. But that is speculation about a down the line event. Mistreatment of J6 prisoners could be a sign that we are heading that way. But it is a very, very long way. Carter is insistent that, among the events which have happened, Pitesti is among the very worst. It was not just intentional mistreatment shading into torture, it was not just regular torture, not just a torture system, not just a totalitarian torture system, no. It was an experiment to see how far totalitarian torture/interrogation methods could go towards the elimination of humanity. It dishonors the victims of that to leap towards making contemporary parallels with things that cannot compare.
Abu Ghraib. It used to be an organic grain research facility till Americans destroyed it for Israel and built their torture and 'reconditioning' centre there.
Well said. I think this nightmare scenario, like the other things happening at about that time, were a direct product of the objectification of this world which really kicked in during the Age of Reason. And we are still very much floundering in the wake.
Another way is that humans are not motivated primarily by reason. Form is more important than content. Images, gestures and sounds in time suggest that culture is what‘s left over after you forgot what you tried to learn. Culture is learned instinct.
He had already seen what was coming during the Spanish Civil War. I have no doubt there would have been Spanish versions of this had the Communists won. Anyone who tells me Franco was evil will get a punch in the nose, the man prevented a Mediterranean Cuba or Venezuela from forming.
It would have been even worse. The Purge Era NKVD would have set up the secret police and torture chambers if the Republicans had won. Much worse than Castro or current day Venezuela.
Good point, making Franco a much more important figure of that era than we realize. One wonders what Germany would have done if it was flanked on both sides by Soviet-supported client states.
A Soviet Spain, after the horrors and devastation of the Civil War, would have been a catastrophe. Franco did not want to engage in mass murder against his former enemies. They would not have had any such restraint.
Also, a Soviet Spain from September 1939, when Hitler and Stalin were allies? Imagine the possibilities.
I have read that. Very good. Peter Kemp. Kemp did not become a cynic. He went in expecting to fight against evil, and he did not have illusions about his own side.
Orwell did have illusions, which were broken in brutal fashion. But Orwell was not broken by Spain. He grew up, he learned, he was willing to forfeit his reputation and his friends, he was willing to accept rejection and vilification, he told the truth as he saw it, and stayed strong to the end, without the solace of any religious belief, just a belief in the reality of truth and lies, good and evil.
When you fight against evil without illusions, there's nothing to regret.
It's to Orwell’s credit that he faced the truth with open eyes. Too many still consider the Republicans to have been the good guys, the volunteer battalions to have been anything but traitors and useful idiots.
Post-war England didn't have torture prisons though, where they made you say he's holding up five fingers instead of four. At least I don't think it did.
The Pitesti experiment would've been current events for Orwell, which was my point.
Pastor Richard Wurmbrand was also in Pitesti and wrote about it in his books Tortured for Christ and In God’s Underground, they are not for the faint of heart.
John, this was harrowing to read, which was partly the point. It begs the question, What is a human being? Because the depths of depravity we can go makes us - some of us - inhuman. From a psychotherapeutic angle, acting out one's pain in such depravity is an attempt at healing it, which never works, as the serial killer will attest. But I think we both know there is a supernatural evil at work that possesses men to behave in such inhuman ways. It seems at this juncture, that evil is coming to the fore while its possessed claim ignorance, perhaps gullibly so. We are way past the point of tolerating its manifestations, whether butchering adolescents, injecting toxins in babies, and on and on. We are descending into darkness, a new Dark Ages, where we must shine our light as bright as we can.
Reading about this, it is impossible not to sense the presence of spiritual evil. Something far darker than merely human depravity, which uses us as a portal.
And that force is absolutely active in our world today.
Totally agree. We have "humans" screaming to kill babies, lop off children's body parts, give children mind altering drugs (SSRIs) and filling babies bodies with vax's that hurt them, all the while proclaiming they "love" their victims.
But it is also impossible to see all that, and then look at people like Calciu, and not understand that God, should we choose Him, is more powerful still. Otherwise, the whole world would be Pitesti.
Remember John 8:44: "Ye are of your father, the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own; for he is a liar, and the father of it."
What does Jesus mean by "your father, the devil"? Do you think he means adoptive father?
I think Jesus is talking about genetics. Some people are literal descendants of demons, and have evil in their DNA and/or souls. (Probably both.) "Your father, the devil" is not a metaphor, except that "father" means "ancestor". That is why they love murder.
I suppose it's up to you whether you consider the literal descendants of devils, who have evil hardwired into their souls, to be human beings, but I do not. I don't believe snakes and scorpions can learn to be good people.
BTW, it's not just John 8. Throughout the gospels Jesus keeps reminding the Pharisees that they cannot understand what He says because they are not His sheep. I think "His sheep" are determined by DNA and/or souls. (Which is one reason they're trying so hard to change our DNA.)
"During my time in the camps, I had got to know the enemies of the human race quite well: they respect the big fist and nothing else; the harder you slug them, the safer you will be." ~ Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn
Communism is at its root the consequence of three sins:
Envy - so obvious as to not be worth further mention
Vainglory - belief that one can surpass and become holier than god. This is of a fundamentally different character than pride, and could take up its own essay.
Spite - a desire to do evil and enjoyment from harming others. Think of those with the nose when thinking of spite.
Communism was a materialist demon of the 20th century, and god willing it shall remain buried there.
The Chabad Lubavitchers with their genocidally exterminatory NWO Noahide Laws (already officially accepted by the entire UN and by the US government in every administration even since 1991 by every POTUS reaffirming total commitment every year in the White House), and the WEF with their cohencidental NWO plans to wipe out 7.5 billion, with Jew Klaus Schwab keeping a bust of Lenin in his office, with Lenin having stated that Communism would be imposed by means of terror and destruction, and that killing 9 out of every 10 people in the world would be an effective way to impose Communism tell me that Communism is getting bigger and bigger (Schwab's intentions make this 15 out of every 16 people in the world to be killed now).
Trump was stated by Israel when he was POTUS to be the most enthusiastic of all US presidents in favour of imposition of the Noahide Laws, and recently, Trump stated publicly in front of a huge cheering crowd that he intends to bring in the death penalty for antisemitism in the USA. This is the same law that the Bukharian Jew Joseph Stalin imposed throughout Soviet Russia, who carried on murdering Christians in Russia right through WWII right up till 1953 when he died, with Stalin stating in the wording accompanying that law that the law was being introduced as Judaism is fundamental and essential to the Communist revolution. Think what Trump really is with his obsessive promises to preserve Israel and the Jews.
My grandfather was captured and executed by the communists during the Greek Civil War in the 1950s. My mother was only three years old at the time. My hatred of lefties knows no bounds.
I'm glad you're pointing your readers to Darryl Cooper, who is one of the finest essayists and historians of our time and who, as you undoubtedly know, has been slandered by some of our finest--or dreaming to be finest--investigative journalists and fighters against the stupidities of progressives on Substack and, of course, elsewhere.
There is no "our side" and "their side." There are only liars, or honest people, and they don't line up on sides.
And as Darryl Cooper has well-demonstrated throughout his brilliant series on The Peculiar Institution, and other series on Martyr Made, the atrocities you highlight here were before our times inflicted by the leaders of the Church and cults of other persuasions as they attempted with great rigor to save men's souls.
I was quite impressed by his appearance on Tucker, and by the one episode of his podcast that I listened to. It will be playing a role in the follow up essay.
I encountered him first on Twitter where he'd post a couple of paragraphs or so as previews of his paywalled pieces, and I thanked him for that taste of his work which even in such small morsels was worth having read, and he very graciously comped me a year which I afterwards converted to paid because even for the constrained of purse he is worth making the effort for.
His series on Job is so remarkable I don't myself have the words to praise it well enough.
No, it was not impressive. Tucker was off his game, and given the witness many give to Cooper's smarts, he was also. Talking of food shortages without the slightest of efforts to be clear. Playing cheap "shock the audience" games with Churchill's rep. as a way to introduce legitimate points and questions.
Disgusting. Tucker is a great man, and hasn't any anti-Semitism, but he's going to deserve some of the flack he gets from this.
I think you mean this. https://substack.com/@martyrmade/p-148628495 The apology for the "food shortages" part of the interview is what I expected, and should defend Cooper from anti-semitism charges, were it not for the low moral caliber of most of those who run to such charges. He still does not get how so much in the Nazi regime was aiming at the Final Solution, or was at least radically open to it, from it's first weeks back in '33. He seems blind to the fact that, regardless of the food factor, much evidence points to Hitler making his final decision for the Final Solution in mid '41, though to his credit he points to evidence that it was already in play from '39.
As for the Churchill stuff, Cooper simply refuses to admit his irresponsible showmanship with his "biggest villain" statement. He will sell more books and (perhaps) ads for making it, sure, but how vile, how low. His basic case against Churchill is "what Halifax said," as those who have read the Lukacs books like The Duel and Five Days in May will recognize. And yet, I suspect if we really got into comparing the two, we'd have more respect for Halifax than Cooper. Notice Cooper's quoting of an interview where some guys talk about how--in the context of what deals Britain could have tried in '39--"any day of peace is worth negociations," with simply zero appreciation of popular opinion and popular morale dynamics. As if you can just turn war on and off. Cc. Lukacs on that issue. And consider also that Cooper has stepped into a pattern we typically see on the left, that of denigrating real greatness and especially the always complicate greatness of astute statesmanship, for the sake of attention. There are serious criticisms to be made of British policy, esp. on the bombing campaigns. And with respect to British conservatives like Churchill, serious criticisms w/ respect to India policy. And Cooper may make us aware of other serious criticisms, such as the food blockade. But serious criticisms demand a serious manner. Cooper, at least from the evidence stemming from this affair, doesn't have it.
One final thing. Yes, the Halifax-ian case for the UK's cutting a deal once France was out can make a kind of sense by a limited "national interest" calculation. Part of the case Churchill made was that that those kind of calculations would be too limited, and any deal would lean more toward granting de facto hegemony to Nazi Germany than towards keeping the British Empire alive. But I think most good men and women shudder with horror at the prospect of that deal because they know that would have meant the Nazi regime remaining in power, likely for many, many decades. Anyone who really knows what Hitler and the Nazis were about knows that would have been a disaster for the world--think of the nuclear arms issue alone. The normal thing is to go "Phew--I'm glad there were more Churchills, DeGaulles, and FDRs than there were Halifaxes, but it was a close-run thing!" Why does that "phew!" not occur to Cooper? And why does he think his observations about bad-police-action toward Jim Jones should apply to the geo-politics in an era of totalitarian regimes?
Given that Cooper straight-up said, in the interview no less, that he was being deliberately hyperbolic and provocative in casting Churchill as the villain, that he "simply refuses to admit his irresponsible showmanship with his "biggest villain" statement." He said it was showmanship when he said it. Was it "irresponsible"? Well, in your opinion. Probably not in his. So your complaint seems to be "Cooper didn't say what I would have said."
As to greatness, at the end of the day, Churchill's actions destroyed the British empire, and set the stage for the present supine exhaustion of the British Isles. Maybe he had no other choice, but "at least we're not speaking German" wears quite thin when the streets of Birmingham ring with cries of 'Allahu Akbar'.
You must understand, the leading Bolsheviks who took over Russia were not Russians. They hated Russians. They hated Christians. Driven by ethnic hatred they tortured and slaughtered millions of Russians without a shred of human remorse. It cannot be overstated. Bolshevism committed the greatest human slaughter of all time. The fact that most of the world is ignorant and uncaring about this enormous crime is proof that the global media is in the hands of the perpetrators.
Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn
This is a very important nuance, which is always ignored. It combines awkwardly with a certain tribe’s victim narrative.
Same in Romania at least until the 60's. The communist political police in Romania was established by NKVD and put under the leadership of a soviet spy named Boris Grünberg who was personally involved in the Pitesti Experiment.
Naturally. Just good job experience.
"Referring to this, British historian Dennis Deletant claims that of the total 60 leaders of the Securitate Directorate, 38 were ethnically Romanian, while 22 were divided between 5 other communities (in this statistic, Deletant counts Nicolschi as an ethnic Russian)."
Ha...another apologist. I love when western historians explain it to us, dirty, backwards eastern europeans, how it really was. Our main sadist was coincidentally born under the name of Benjamin Eisenberger. I can only bet that his forebears didn't arrive this place with Árpád. Figures.
My only little respite is, that the communists were quite adept killing their own too. Although these 2 did live long enough to see the fall of the system.
Rákosi (born Rosenfeld) Mátyás, the communist leader of Hungary after the second world war used to tell that joke, that they only appointed Garbai Sándor to the popular tribunes during the Hungarian Soviet Republic of 1919, because they needed someone to sign the executions during Sabbath. He was the only hungarian among them.
For some reason, people still shoot me down when I say that it might have contributed to the antisemitism and what happened later on. It was just a coincidence then, I guess.
(Lukács was also one...and he used to tell a story about how he ordered the decimation of his military unit, when they failed one of their objectives. There's no evidence that this happened other than him saying it, but still...why would you brag about something so terrible. Truly a shining example of humanity.)
The ethnic dimension of Bolshevism was well-known at the time. Even Churchill commented on it. Essentially all of the anti-communists of the 20s and 30s invoked the heavy Jewish involvement in communism as the primary motivation for their anti-Semitic stance.
Of course, these days one is not allowed to discuss such things.
The relevant book on this, the one that deals with it most sensitively, is 200 Years Together. Solzhenitsyn.
Interesting how it took so long for that book to be translated into English.
OMG! 😲! The leaders of the Bolsheviks were Zionist Jews! Ahahahaha ha. 🤔 Who FINANCED that trainride to Moscow?
I'm gonna take a stab at that and say the Germans.
Please, go away. Read this post. Respect the depth of suffering here.
The then Royal family.
A.S. is a great author, all his books are worth a read, kind regards!
I get the feeling that the biggest goal of the war in Ukraine was to get Russians and Ukrainians to kill each other in large numbers. And in that respect, it was Nuland and Blinken's greatest success.
This is also my suspicion. Blood sacrifice.
Absolutely. White Christians killing White Christians is a win-win for the people of the US State Department.
It was true of the Iran-Iraq War too. Kissinger joked, “It’s a pity they can’t both lose.”
This also explains the strange sight of a Jewish leader in Ukraine in charge of literal Nazis in the Ukrainian military.
It all makes sense when you assume that the main goal of the war was for them to die, along with half a million or so other Slavic men on both sides.
Yes, and you'll probably want to give this a listen:
https://x.com/MikeBenzCyber/status/1829403391149363485
Thanks, I really like Benz.
I fear for his safety. He's got a photographic memory. Names people, states U.S. Codes/Statutes they've crossed, outlines crimes committed by .gov employees, etc.
Yes, it's very dangerous to speak the truth these days.
Using their mind-control lasers to get Putin to invade Ukraine.
No, deliberately and repeatedly provoking Russia for years, hoping for an invasion.
Provocations, like supporting Ukrainians who wanted to bring their country closer to the West.
I think the provocations had more to do with staging a color revolution, followed by almost a decade of warfare against ethnic Russians in the Donbass.
More like the West dictated what Ukraine was after overthrowing their government:
https://x.com/glenn_diesen/status/1832653278917665228
"Two weeks before the Western-backed coup in Ukraine, a leaked recording of Victoria Nuland and Geoffrey Pyatt revealed that Washington was hand-picking the new government"
Did you notice that the US ran a color revolution in Ukraine?
Maybe you didn't want to notice.
Like I said, many Ukrainians wanted to bring their country closer to the West.
If you are talking about "Jewish Bolsheviks" here, they were Jews by Russian definitions but I don't think most Americans would consider 2nd or 3rd generation atheists to be Jews (or Christians for that matter). Since we are talking about the Russian Empire, some of the subject peoples were prominent including Poles, Latvians, Georgians and Ukrainians. Iron Felix was Polish and the Latvian Rifles were the shock troops. If you look at the chain of command for the Holodomor, everyone in it was Ukrainian until you got to Stalin himself who was not ethnic Russian either.
The best demonstration of this point is the fact that the first thing the Bolsheviks did after overthrowing the Russian establishment and setting up their own regime was to go after not only Russian Christians, but traditional and religious members of all the resentful, bio-Leninist minority groups that made up the Bolsheviks, Jews included. There was an entire branch of the communist party called the Yevsektsiya (евсекция) dedicated exclusively to destroying Jewish religious life and forcibly converting the Jewish youth to communism in order to make them good soviet citizens. Any Jews who resisted this program were automatically considered anti-revolutionary dissidents and were subject to arrest and torture by the NKVD (or whatever the secret police were called at that point), often followed by exile to Siberian labor camps or execution. But because all this was done in the name of communism, not fascism or similar, and often by “fellow Jews”, this has all been simply memory-holed, like most atrocities of the Bolsheviks.
O sure. Mass crucifixions of Christians. Mass destruction of churches. Laws punishing anti-Semitism. Mass murder of clergy. Totally no Jews.
Never said they weren’t (ethnically) jews. Just that they hated religious jews as much as they hated Christianity, and everything else normal and “bourgeois”. Many of these people assuredly had Jewish blood, but their only religion was Communism.
Who’s the Jew? Where’s the Jew? O he’s disappeared! Is he white? Is he religious? Is he ethnic? St Paul said the Jews killed Christ and is the enemy of mankind. He wrote that before the Talmud was written and before they owned banks. The Jews are the dumbest people on the planet. They killed their own Messiah. He did amazing and unprecedented miracles in front of them and rose from the dead and they still won’t let go of their insane supremacist ideology. Please do yourself a favour and get away from that mess. Get baptised.
No Paul did not. Unless you take the scripture out of context, wildly.
Christ repeatedly made it clear that it was a matter of the heart, and his first core groups of followers were Jews and then Gentiles.
He only spoke of the fake, intolerant, hateful, self-righteous Jews.
He was speaking to an entire ethnicity or even religion.
Stop liking your own comments, it’s pathetic
They'd have been considered Jews by Israel's definition. And ~20% of Jews in Israel are atheists.
Israel is a secular state that, they just wanted to increase their population in order to grow the country economically and be able to demographically dominate the local Arabs. They couldn’t care less about who’s actually Jewish or not in a meaningful sense. They famously broadened the “law of return” after the fall of the iron curtain, welcoming thousands of immigrants from the former soviet union on the mere qualification that they “consider themselves” Jewish, with no proof of ethnicity or religiosity required whatsoever.
>Israel is a secular state
What
Only in the sense that western countries are secular. As in, the Schmittian “state of exception” is decided based on secular or pragmatic ideals, not religious dogma. Obviously there are major political factions within Israel (such as the kahanist “religious zionist” types) that wish it were otherwise, just like there are Christian nationalists in the US and Catholic integralists in some European countries. But they are a minority within the government, certainly not the ones making decisions.
I want an example of a large group of Christian Nationalists in the US. Especially a group whose primary identity is Christian then Nationalists.
Maybe you mean christians who want the US to prosper?
So
So If this is true it shows that Israel isn’t a Jewish cabal of warmongers. Israel is just the Middle East station of Globohomocap
Pretty much. If you look at Israeli leftist media, NGO’s, political rhetoric etc. it’s literally indistinguishable from shitlibs in the US and every other GAE-dominated country. We just don’t hear about it much in America, since Israeli social media presence is run by Netanyahu-brand anti woke types, so their signaling is all macho and nationalist.
Funny that. Who do Germans make their Holocaust Reparations cheque out to? O yes, the Jews. They sure identify as Jewish when they get their reparation money their synagogue protection money when they agitate for a religious right to abortion, censorship, hate speech laws, prayer free schools, the dismantling of anti obscenity laws and arms and missiles to Israel. Funny that. Call them out on their wickedness and suddenly Jews are white boys.
Well, you know we always outfox you guys.
I wonder what those deranged woke students with multicoloured hair and confused gender would make of this story. Not that they would ever read it. A hard reminder of the horrors perpetrated in the name of high moralism...beware of the do gooders!
They would say, that never happened, and if it did it has nothing to do with what we want to do now, and you are sick and paranoid for bringing it up, all the while, in their hearts they wish they could do all of this to their enemies, and they will if they get the chance.
"It didn't happen, and it's good that it happened."
I have in fact seen commies saying precisely this about Pitesti.
Much like holocaust denial.
That's just the way ideologues are, unfortunately.
"if they get the chance" They definitely will do this. they will do everything done in the red terrors. there will be a gulag. they will do everything pol pot and mao did. and all the rest of them.
Nothing in their ideology gives them any reason not to.
They speak in violent and eliminationist language.
They verbalize and believe in a pure distinction between themselves and non-human, evil others.
All the prerequisites are there.
Once in power, the most vicious and sadistic will seize the opportunity to inflict this. And as we saw in Nazi Germany, the female prison guards were the cruelest of all.
"Should the tyranny that has descended on our age ever gain the power it seeks and then be challenged enough to feel itself in danger, the mass annihilations that will be carried out by homosexual, transsexual, and especially lesbian commissars will exceed in scale and cruelty anything that has yet happened in known history. Imagine lesbian mulatta commissars with young Martin Sheen face and haircut manning the future Bergen-Belsens, installations that will span tens of miles."
- Bronze Age Mindset
A militarized, tyrannical and authoritarian Cluster-B society will be the end of us all.
We are playing a very dangerous game, letting the pathocracy establish itself again.
BAP sees clearly on this issue.
"As we saw in Nazi Germany, the female prision guards were the cruelest of all" Pure Jewish hasbara crap. The word 'we' says it all.
I don't recall ever hearing about female prison guards in Nazi Germany. I have certainly read that women were the most enthusiastic Nazis but there's a big difference there.
When they release the jan 6 prisoners we may hear stories that sound exactly the same.
Glad I found the sub convo where people are taking it seriously. I think after watching people literally believe that you can die in a restaurant standing up without a mask but ya fine sitting chewing with your pie hole open… yeah I think this level of insanity is more than possible.
I’m very ‘left’ but what is happening with the ‘party’ is going Animal Farm in a hotted up V8 off a cliff
The left always goes full Animal Farm. No exceptions.
It will be far worse this time, as technology and understanding of psychology have vastly improved.
They would claim it's right-wing propaganda.
Not would, do. I encountered many of those imbeciles working in universities. I am now more convinced than ever that modern universities need to be burned to the ground.
They do.
PhD. here. Worked at UVA, HSC, Skidmore College, Washington and Lee, CNU, UVU.
Presently a substitute teacher. Will be corralling kindergartners this week.
If "burned to the ground" means so radically reformed that 80% of the present personnel find their jobs eliminated, yes.
Why waste perfectly useful buildings? I suggest we start by using them to house illegals.
Why would we want to house illegals? As supposed to, say, deporting them.
You got to put them somewhere when rounding them up waiting for the busses.
I guess.
Though I'm quite happy to just put them in a fenced field and let them enjoy the elements.
But the art? The books? The collections and samples?
We must move all those first!
That goes without saying.
Many older books have already been moved and are stored off-site to make for newer books and for “interactive spaces.”
Hide them! Buy them! Appropriate them! Copy them, memorise them, encourage others to do the same! Use exclamation marks!
In all seriousness, please do consider saving old books no matter the topic or veracity: a printed book is a thing that exists, and is beyond the reach of the global capitalistic techno-fascistoid oligarchy's control.
And the more "problematic" or "challenging" the book is, the better.
They are already trying to turn the world into Pitesti. They want this.
•Forcing you to eat garbage: You vill eat ze bugs
•Betrayal from family: "How to talk to your friends and family about vaccines" & "Orange man bad!"
•Betrayal of friends: Being forced to 'dissavow' former friends for being politically incorrect
•Exposing details of life: Social media scraping for minor 'crimes' or even inventing ones in the past and forcing you to apologize ie Brett Kavenaugh.
•Material impoverishment: Losing job via vax mandate or because you support Orange Man
•Moral humiliation: White privilege, male privilege, let the immigrants in and give your stuff
•False baptism: Vaccine as the new unholy sacrament.
I personally read American university professors claiming that Soviet Gulags were in fact essentially spa resorts that combined easy therapeutic labor with excellent healthcare and education for the inmates, who greatly benefited.
Propaganda knows no national boundaries...and is quite at home at universities. See Foucault and the postmodernists in general, what a bunch of dangerous loonies...
Notice the patronizing, moralistic language these monsters use. In between electric shocks to the nuts they have the chutzpah to say you are the bad guy for not writing to some girl.
You see people like this in day to day life who will confidently express their moral superiority while living like total degenerates. You'll feel like you're taking crazy pills that everyone defers to them. Not to discount the victims of that horrid experiment, but we live in a "soft" version of the same thing.
I mean, the dialogue is entirely my own invention.
I think the closest we have come to this by our government today is the J6 prisoners, though not quite to the same level as Pitesti - yet. These people are sociopaths and have no morals. They only see morals as a tool to use against others.
I would argue MKULTRA is the closest analogy.
Yes, in terms of method. But I think J6 is closest in terms of circumstances.
Do you know how to read, sir? Do your 21 "likers"?
Mr. Carter goes through the pain of researching the hell of Pitesti, concluding that he knows of no worse case, and in your rush to make a contemporary point you steamroll everything he has done. Do you not see just how much worse the very worst J6 guards would have to be, and then multiplied by 10? "Not quite to the same level." !!???
Not long ago, the J6 prisoners were allowed to host a podcast. They had wifi, Shure microphones, a table laid out with Trump books and paraphernalia, and the Gadsden and Americans flags on the wall behind them for a backdrop.
Anyone comparing the "DC Gulag" to Pitesti needs to read the article again. Read it slowly.
There really is no comparison. Which is not to excuse what's been done up to J6 protestors.
I guess understatement is lost on you. If you have not read accurate reports about how the J6 prisoners are being tortured, I suggest you do. I certainly didn't steam roll JC's post. It stands on its own, irrespective of my comment. If given the order, I don't think it would long before they crossed into Pitesti territory. What do you think they have planned for MAGA supporters in the "reeducation camps" the Left keeps talking about?
I apologize for the tone of my comment. Heat of the initial reaction.
I do not apologize for it's basic point though. We are morally obliged to acknowledge different degrees of evil and suffering. And some differences of degree are so wide as to demand radical distinctions in our vocabulary. Carter makes an argument in his post and in the comments which suggests our entire societies are moving toward more Pitestis. But that is speculation about a down the line event. Mistreatment of J6 prisoners could be a sign that we are heading that way. But it is a very, very long way. Carter is insistent that, among the events which have happened, Pitesti is among the very worst. It was not just intentional mistreatment shading into torture, it was not just regular torture, not just a torture system, not just a totalitarian torture system, no. It was an experiment to see how far totalitarian torture/interrogation methods could go towards the elimination of humanity. It dishonors the victims of that to leap towards making contemporary parallels with things that cannot compare.
Guantanamo
Guantanamo is bad, but it's nothing like Pitesti.
Nope. Not even close.
Have you been there?
Abu Garib was way closer.
Abu Ghraib. It used to be an organic grain research facility till Americans destroyed it for Israel and built their torture and 'reconditioning' centre there.
To be fair, these psychologists were only walking in the footsteps of European Enlightment that brought us the Tabula Rasa idea to begin with. :)
And they weren't the only ones.
Indeed. The communists followed the crude materialism of the most simplistic strains of Enlightenment thought to their horrifying conclusions.
... and the noble savage idea with civilizational self loathing,
... and the social contract idea with the dissolution of the self in the 'general will'
... and the primacy of our wishes and will over understanding reality
they are all with us again, transparent, like the serpent's egg
Well said. I think this nightmare scenario, like the other things happening at about that time, were a direct product of the objectification of this world which really kicked in during the Age of Reason. And we are still very much floundering in the wake.
There's definitely a connection there. No accident that communism is atheistic, and uniquely brutal.
Disenchantment. A good term.
Another way is that humans are not motivated primarily by reason. Form is more important than content. Images, gestures and sounds in time suggest that culture is what‘s left over after you forgot what you tried to learn. Culture is learned instinct.
I wonder if George Orwell got wind of this when he was writing 1984.
Room 101 is a pale shadow of what happened in Pitesti, but in any case the experiment was performed after 1984 was published.
The parallels should rather be taken as indicative that he also understood the true horror of the soul of communism.
He had already seen what was coming during the Spanish Civil War. I have no doubt there would have been Spanish versions of this had the Communists won. Anyone who tells me Franco was evil will get a punch in the nose, the man prevented a Mediterranean Cuba or Venezuela from forming.
Franco was a great man.
Spanish leftists exhuming his corpse to desecrate it is yet one more demonstration of what they are, and what he was trying to prevent.
It would have been even worse. The Purge Era NKVD would have set up the secret police and torture chambers if the Republicans had won. Much worse than Castro or current day Venezuela.
Good point, making Franco a much more important figure of that era than we realize. One wonders what Germany would have done if it was flanked on both sides by Soviet-supported client states.
A Soviet Spain, after the horrors and devastation of the Civil War, would have been a catastrophe. Franco did not want to engage in mass murder against his former enemies. They would not have had any such restraint.
Also, a Soviet Spain from September 1939, when Hitler and Stalin were allies? Imagine the possibilities.
They pretty much did in the portion of Spain controlled by the Republic. Trotskyists and Anarchists were the main targets
Orwell had a perfect understanding of Communist psychology. His speculations about their methods and aims were spot on.
I think his encounter with them in Spain broke him. He went in an idealist and came out a cynic.
Have you read Always With Honor? Interesting perspective from a British volunteer for the other side.
I have read that. Very good. Peter Kemp. Kemp did not become a cynic. He went in expecting to fight against evil, and he did not have illusions about his own side.
Orwell did have illusions, which were broken in brutal fashion. But Orwell was not broken by Spain. He grew up, he learned, he was willing to forfeit his reputation and his friends, he was willing to accept rejection and vilification, he told the truth as he saw it, and stayed strong to the end, without the solace of any religious belief, just a belief in the reality of truth and lies, good and evil.
When you fight against evil without illusions, there's nothing to regret.
It's to Orwell’s credit that he faced the truth with open eyes. Too many still consider the Republicans to have been the good guys, the volunteer battalions to have been anything but traitors and useful idiots.
Yeah. As much as I admire - and still read - Hemingway his unwavering support for the Republican side still rankles with me.
1984 wasn't about the future.
It was about the realities of post war England in 1948.
Post-war England didn't have torture prisons though, where they made you say he's holding up five fingers instead of four. At least I don't think it did.
The Pitesti experiment would've been current events for Orwell, which was my point.
1984 was published in 1948. Pitesti started in 1949.
Hmm… okay. Thanks for the clarification.
More darkly, maybe it was a macabre early example of communists using the book as an instruction manual rather than a warning…
I doubt it. The only likely connection is that communism is pure evil. Orwell saw this. Pitesti demonstrated it.
Yes they did, The Cage in Kensington Gardens: https://www.camdennewjournal.co.uk/article/grillers-in-our-midst-a-clandestine-history-of-britains-wartime-interrogation-centre
Of course. Silly me.
Both.
Pastor Richard Wurmbrand was also in Pitesti and wrote about it in his books Tortured for Christ and In God’s Underground, they are not for the faint of heart.
John, this was harrowing to read, which was partly the point. It begs the question, What is a human being? Because the depths of depravity we can go makes us - some of us - inhuman. From a psychotherapeutic angle, acting out one's pain in such depravity is an attempt at healing it, which never works, as the serial killer will attest. But I think we both know there is a supernatural evil at work that possesses men to behave in such inhuman ways. It seems at this juncture, that evil is coming to the fore while its possessed claim ignorance, perhaps gullibly so. We are way past the point of tolerating its manifestations, whether butchering adolescents, injecting toxins in babies, and on and on. We are descending into darkness, a new Dark Ages, where we must shine our light as bright as we can.
Reading about this, it is impossible not to sense the presence of spiritual evil. Something far darker than merely human depravity, which uses us as a portal.
And that force is absolutely active in our world today.
Totally agree. We have "humans" screaming to kill babies, lop off children's body parts, give children mind altering drugs (SSRIs) and filling babies bodies with vax's that hurt them, all the while proclaiming they "love" their victims.
Pure evil is here on earth.
But it is also impossible to see all that, and then look at people like Calciu, and not understand that God, should we choose Him, is more powerful still. Otherwise, the whole world would be Pitesti.
Remember John 8:44: "Ye are of your father, the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own; for he is a liar, and the father of it."
What does Jesus mean by "your father, the devil"? Do you think he means adoptive father?
I think Jesus is talking about genetics. Some people are literal descendants of demons, and have evil in their DNA and/or souls. (Probably both.) "Your father, the devil" is not a metaphor, except that "father" means "ancestor". That is why they love murder.
I suppose it's up to you whether you consider the literal descendants of devils, who have evil hardwired into their souls, to be human beings, but I do not. I don't believe snakes and scorpions can learn to be good people.
BTW, it's not just John 8. Throughout the gospels Jesus keeps reminding the Pharisees that they cannot understand what He says because they are not His sheep. I think "His sheep" are determined by DNA and/or souls. (Which is one reason they're trying so hard to change our DNA.)
"During my time in the camps, I had got to know the enemies of the human race quite well: they respect the big fist and nothing else; the harder you slug them, the safer you will be." ~ Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn
Words to live by
agee
Excellent post on many levels. What gets me the most is not the horror of it, but the realization that it is coming back more virulent than ever
What we have now is in many ways a refinement of this, generalized across society, with the violence largely removed but the sadism fully intact.
OMG, you're so correct. Sorry-it just hit me.
Communism is at its root the consequence of three sins:
Envy - so obvious as to not be worth further mention
Vainglory - belief that one can surpass and become holier than god. This is of a fundamentally different character than pride, and could take up its own essay.
Spite - a desire to do evil and enjoyment from harming others. Think of those with the nose when thinking of spite.
Communism was a materialist demon of the 20th century, and god willing it shall remain buried there.
Unfortunately, those impulses are alive and well today, and extremely influential. “Equity” is merely a rebranding of communism.
The Chabad Lubavitchers with their genocidally exterminatory NWO Noahide Laws (already officially accepted by the entire UN and by the US government in every administration even since 1991 by every POTUS reaffirming total commitment every year in the White House), and the WEF with their cohencidental NWO plans to wipe out 7.5 billion, with Jew Klaus Schwab keeping a bust of Lenin in his office, with Lenin having stated that Communism would be imposed by means of terror and destruction, and that killing 9 out of every 10 people in the world would be an effective way to impose Communism tell me that Communism is getting bigger and bigger (Schwab's intentions make this 15 out of every 16 people in the world to be killed now).
Trump was stated by Israel when he was POTUS to be the most enthusiastic of all US presidents in favour of imposition of the Noahide Laws, and recently, Trump stated publicly in front of a huge cheering crowd that he intends to bring in the death penalty for antisemitism in the USA. This is the same law that the Bukharian Jew Joseph Stalin imposed throughout Soviet Russia, who carried on murdering Christians in Russia right through WWII right up till 1953 when he died, with Stalin stating in the wording accompanying that law that the law was being introduced as Judaism is fundamental and essential to the Communist revolution. Think what Trump really is with his obsessive promises to preserve Israel and the Jews.
How can one convey this to the Ford F-150 drivers?
The sam hyde quote about how they think its funny
I have no clue what that is/means!
“When we win, do not forget that these people want you broke, dead, and your children raped and brainwashed, and they think its funny.” ~ Sam Hyde
Thank you!
This is why you must NEVER let them take you alive. Not the commies, not the cops, not the feds...
NEVER let them take you alive.
Better by far to die fighting.
You’ll remain a human at the very least, and your soul shall reach god in tact.
That is the plan. Better to die than be so battered and beaten down by cowardly Hell-worshiping sadists.
My grandfather was captured and executed by the communists during the Greek Civil War in the 1950s. My mother was only three years old at the time. My hatred of lefties knows no bounds.
"They" are not just guilty of what they accuse others of.
They have done far, far worse.
Projection, to conceal their own crimes.
No DEI or grade inflation here. These guys definitely earned their graduation.
Man.
This was very good and brings to mind the Fixer by Bernard Malamud which is also a high recommend.
I'm glad you're pointing your readers to Darryl Cooper, who is one of the finest essayists and historians of our time and who, as you undoubtedly know, has been slandered by some of our finest--or dreaming to be finest--investigative journalists and fighters against the stupidities of progressives on Substack and, of course, elsewhere.
There is no "our side" and "their side." There are only liars, or honest people, and they don't line up on sides.
And as Darryl Cooper has well-demonstrated throughout his brilliant series on The Peculiar Institution, and other series on Martyr Made, the atrocities you highlight here were before our times inflicted by the leaders of the Church and cults of other persuasions as they attempted with great rigor to save men's souls.
I was quite impressed by his appearance on Tucker, and by the one episode of his podcast that I listened to. It will be playing a role in the follow up essay.
I encountered him first on Twitter where he'd post a couple of paragraphs or so as previews of his paywalled pieces, and I thanked him for that taste of his work which even in such small morsels was worth having read, and he very graciously comped me a year which I afterwards converted to paid because even for the constrained of purse he is worth making the effort for.
His series on Job is so remarkable I don't myself have the words to praise it well enough.
What a champ.
His paid subs are doing very well post-Tucker, judging by the screenshot he shared. Streisand effect for the win.
I sure hope so. As I wish for everywhere--I always wish for justice.
No, it was not impressive. Tucker was off his game, and given the witness many give to Cooper's smarts, he was also. Talking of food shortages without the slightest of efforts to be clear. Playing cheap "shock the audience" games with Churchill's rep. as a way to introduce legitimate points and questions.
Disgusting. Tucker is a great man, and hasn't any anti-Semitism, but he's going to deserve some of the flack he gets from this.
You can read Cooper's explanation of what went wrong with that interview here on Substack.
I think you mean this. https://substack.com/@martyrmade/p-148628495 The apology for the "food shortages" part of the interview is what I expected, and should defend Cooper from anti-semitism charges, were it not for the low moral caliber of most of those who run to such charges. He still does not get how so much in the Nazi regime was aiming at the Final Solution, or was at least radically open to it, from it's first weeks back in '33. He seems blind to the fact that, regardless of the food factor, much evidence points to Hitler making his final decision for the Final Solution in mid '41, though to his credit he points to evidence that it was already in play from '39.
As for the Churchill stuff, Cooper simply refuses to admit his irresponsible showmanship with his "biggest villain" statement. He will sell more books and (perhaps) ads for making it, sure, but how vile, how low. His basic case against Churchill is "what Halifax said," as those who have read the Lukacs books like The Duel and Five Days in May will recognize. And yet, I suspect if we really got into comparing the two, we'd have more respect for Halifax than Cooper. Notice Cooper's quoting of an interview where some guys talk about how--in the context of what deals Britain could have tried in '39--"any day of peace is worth negociations," with simply zero appreciation of popular opinion and popular morale dynamics. As if you can just turn war on and off. Cc. Lukacs on that issue. And consider also that Cooper has stepped into a pattern we typically see on the left, that of denigrating real greatness and especially the always complicate greatness of astute statesmanship, for the sake of attention. There are serious criticisms to be made of British policy, esp. on the bombing campaigns. And with respect to British conservatives like Churchill, serious criticisms w/ respect to India policy. And Cooper may make us aware of other serious criticisms, such as the food blockade. But serious criticisms demand a serious manner. Cooper, at least from the evidence stemming from this affair, doesn't have it.
One final thing. Yes, the Halifax-ian case for the UK's cutting a deal once France was out can make a kind of sense by a limited "national interest" calculation. Part of the case Churchill made was that that those kind of calculations would be too limited, and any deal would lean more toward granting de facto hegemony to Nazi Germany than towards keeping the British Empire alive. But I think most good men and women shudder with horror at the prospect of that deal because they know that would have meant the Nazi regime remaining in power, likely for many, many decades. Anyone who really knows what Hitler and the Nazis were about knows that would have been a disaster for the world--think of the nuclear arms issue alone. The normal thing is to go "Phew--I'm glad there were more Churchills, DeGaulles, and FDRs than there were Halifaxes, but it was a close-run thing!" Why does that "phew!" not occur to Cooper? And why does he think his observations about bad-police-action toward Jim Jones should apply to the geo-politics in an era of totalitarian regimes?
Given that Cooper straight-up said, in the interview no less, that he was being deliberately hyperbolic and provocative in casting Churchill as the villain, that he "simply refuses to admit his irresponsible showmanship with his "biggest villain" statement." He said it was showmanship when he said it. Was it "irresponsible"? Well, in your opinion. Probably not in his. So your complaint seems to be "Cooper didn't say what I would have said."
As to greatness, at the end of the day, Churchill's actions destroyed the British empire, and set the stage for the present supine exhaustion of the British Isles. Maybe he had no other choice, but "at least we're not speaking German" wears quite thin when the streets of Birmingham ring with cries of 'Allahu Akbar'.
This is where we're heading, isn't it?
Very quickly.
To the extent that you wrote an allegory as well as a historical exposition, we are already there.